Browns part ways with Robert Turbin after three weeks of play
November 10, 2015On Missouri and Diversity Day
November 10, 2015
Les Levine is back on the WFNY Podcast and we’re attacking all the awfulness of Cleveland sports, and a bit of the Cavs goodness too.
Here’s what we discussed specifically.
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- Road rage is a bad idea
- What historical Browns season would you compare this to?
- Drafting Johnny Manziel set the team back.
- Johnny Manziel can’t run anything that’s planned.
- Gary Barnidge is not built for a Johnny Manziel offense.
- You can’t keep losing years to transition.
- Johnny Manziel’s off day look and not caring about perception
- Bernie Kosar and the Browns?
- Bernie Kosar is the most popular Brown of all time
- Any expectations for a Chris Antonetti front office?
- The Delly to Tristan Thompson alley-oop play
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liked your honesty about the ridiculousness of Bernie’s “Hire Me” campaign. Maybe as media members you can’t afford to say the rest of the brutal truth: 1) Being football smart, reading a defense, does not mean you are able to build a team. There’s so much weirdness when fans emotionally claim they just know Bernie can save them. He’s never done that job, hasn’t ever been an assistant to that job, and no other team has sought fit to hire this genius in that capacity. He’s never paid the dues to learn how to do it, as Ozzie did starting the year he retired, breaking down film with the much younger grunts, scouting, showing promise and learning to play with the other children and owner; 2) Building a franchise up requires hard and sustained work. Bernie clearly has some difficulties, and he’s talked about them. Certainly physical, maybe also cognitive. Fans who complained about Holmgren’s work ethic shouldn’t be pining for a guy who may not even be able to match that.
Please, thumb-suckers, stop with the Bernie savior fantasies. Bernie may need the money. Bernie may be warmed by the attention. But being your childhood hero has nothing to do with franchise building. Nothing at all.
Sixteen years and counting!
There is 0 doubt in my mind that nobody in that building has even “hire Bernie” as a post-it note deep in a binder that they just forgot to get to.
They didn’t trust him as a mouthpiece in commenting on preseason games but they’re gonna hire him as the head of the Football Operations?
This “hire me” plea is nothing more than his way at an additional cash grab as he continues his autograph days inside Acme Supermarkets.
I loved Bernie when I was 8 years old because he was a good football player…. but what he is doing now is just awful.
Side Note on Ozzie; he had Belichick teaching him scouting and film prep.
Bernie is supposed “self-taught” and sorry but we have enough of those types already.
In one of the specials about the Browns move there is a shot with Ozzie in the background walking through the offices with the other bottom-rung grunts, carrying notebooks and video. A hall of famer just after he retired working under Belichik before he had any house training, Saban and those guys. I never begrudge Ozzie going to Baltimore with the job or being successful. He earned it by humbling himself and starting from scratch. What he did was the equivalent of a Tony award-winning actor working the theater lights.
Always major props to Ozzie for doing what he did and then also for what he continues to do by staying with Baltimore.
While people see him as a “traitor” as sorts because of his refusal to speak to the Browns about a position here I applaud his loyalty to the Raven franchise.
hi HARV … i totally agree with everything you wrote , but who’s to say bernie wouldn’t get it done ? you & I could both pick talent better than many of our past GM’s … bernie couldn’t do much worse.
which brings me to peyton manning … i wonder if haslam will drop a boatload of money at his feet to come to cleveland.
and i’m sure bernie still likes to “tip a few” … not very smart to have him around manziel.
We have a GM now who has whiffed on almost every draft pick and brought Dywayne Bowe into town. While people say that Kosar is inexperienced, I would point out that Ray Farmer was inexperienced when he was hired. I would also point out that John Elway had no previous experience before he took the job in Denver. Seems to have worked out well for them. Kosar loves this team and is very passionate about winning. At this point, I think Kosar might just be the guy to breathe new life into this organization.