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April 18, 2016Bryan Shaw might be a serious problem, but the rest of the Cleveland Indians looked OK—until the sun came out.
Considering the minuscule run support and general “tough luck” Corey Kluber has endured over the past year, some have said there’s a dark cloud hovering over the former Cy Young Award winner’s head. On Sunday, that supposed cloud sure could have come in handy, as the Indians defense lost three separate pop flies in the bright spring sunshine over Progressive Field, assisting the Mets to a runaway, series clinching 6-0 win. The sight of Rajai Davis falling to the ground in center field and shielding himself from… nothing… became the central image of the weekend. But between Cody Anderson on Friday, Bryan Shaw on Saturday, and the Klubot on Sunday, there was a lot of ugliness to over-analyze.
So let’s do what we do in April and put a few pitchers on trial, shall we?
Weekend Re-Capping
This series certainly had a lot going for it on paper—the first nice weather of the year, a rare visit from the defending NL Champion New York Mets, and a showdown of arguably the two best starting rotations in baseball. The marquee match-ups didn’t really line up for us, however. There would be no appearances from Jacob deGrom, Noah Syndergaard, Carlos Carrasco, or Danny Salazar, and the two headlining names who did take the bump—Matt Harvey and Corey Kluber—wouldn’t be squaring off head to head. Instead, we were given three lesser duels—Anderson v. Colon, Tomlin v. Harvey, and Kluber v. Matz. At quick glance, you had to like Cleveland’s chances against a 42-year-old Colon, while Matt Harvey seemed a safe bet against a likely rusty Josh Tomlin coming off a 17-day rest.
Sunday, the good money was on Kluber to right the ship and get his first win. None of the things above happened. But at least Tyler Naquin threw himself into a wall for your amusement.
https://vine.co/v/itH6vx1xhwz
Friday:
Mets 6, Indians 5
W: Bartolo Colon (1-1), L: Cody Anderson (0-1), S: Jeurys Familia (3)
Boxscore Excerpt: Anderson | 4.2 IP, 5 ER, 9 H, 1 BB, 5 K, 3 HR
“The People vs. Cody Andrew Anderson”
Through their first eight ballgames of the year, New York had managed just three homeruns as a team, total. They matched that number in the fifth inning alone on Friday, suddenly turning an entertaining 1-1 contest into a blowout (at least temporarily).
Cody Anderson, who actually earned comparisons to Matt Harvey in the spring with his improved velocity and almost obnoxious dedication to “the craft,” surrendered a solo homer in the first inning to Michael Conforto, then slinked his way out of a couple jams in the next few innings, as he has shown a Tomlinesque flair for doing. Finally, in the fifth, it all came apart—not in a slow, miserable unraveling way like Kluber’s effort on Sunday—but with a few quick, merciful blows to the head. Alejandro De Aza—the extremely mediocre ex-White Sox outfielder and notorious, inexplicable Tribe killer—got it started with a homer to center field. De Aza has a .818 career OPS against Cleveland, about 100 points above his mark against the rest of the league.
Anderson got the next two guys out, then coughed up a single to Conforto, a two-run bomb to Yoenis Cespedes (pretty forgivable), and a single to Lucas Duda.
https://vine.co/v/itH2rq176Mi
For whatever reason, the fifth inning has routinely posed problems for Cody. Overall, he has handled himself quite well in the middle innings, just not No. 5.
Opponents vs. Cody Anderson in Middle Innings (2015 and 2016)
4th Inning: .143 AVG / .222 OBP / .184 SLG
5th Inning: .316 AVG / .371 OBP / .544 SLG
6th Inning: .190 AVG / .222 OBP / .286 SLG
Yeah, beats me.
Detwiler had a humorous 7.25 ERA across 41 games last season, and is sitting at 10.13 through his first four appearances this year
Was Bartolo Colon much better than Anderson? Well, I generally put my fingers in my ears and sing “la la la” any time people start talking about the Indians’ offensive woes during this difficult Brantley-less adjustment period, so I’m not even going to mention Cleveland’s 2-for-14 effort with RISP, or their complete failure to deliver the knockout blow on a vulnerable Colon (8 hits allowed in 5 1/3 IP). I also see little reason to harp on the team’s gallant comeback attempt in the ninth, when Addison Reed and Jeurys Familia very nearly blew a four-run lead for New York. Carlos Santana homered, but you probably still dislike him.
https://vine.co/v/itTXBX3L7IA
Hey, who added that highlight? Let’s keep the focus on the man on trial here—Cody Anderson: is he guilty of crimes against reliability as a No. 4 starter?
VERDICT: We the People find the defendant Not Guilty! He might have missed his spots a few times, but if you really think it’s time to consider a change, you’ve clearly been flying too many drones with your buddy Trevor.
Saturday:
Indians 7, Mets 5
W: Josh Tomlin (1-0), L: Matt Harvey (0-3), S: Cody Allen (3)
Boxscore Excerpt: Shaw | 0.2 IP, 4 ER, 3 H, 1 BB, 2 HR
“The People vs. Bryan Anthony Shaw”
Rather than breaking down this game in detail, I’ll just say it was Friday’s game in reverse. This time it was the Indians breaking open a tight game in the middle innings, and New York eventually closing the gap uncomfortably. Matt Harvey, like Kluber, is still a very good pitcher despite an 0-3 start and all the accompanying New York media hysteria. He had a perfect game into the fifth in this one, before a Santana walk and steal led to a Jose Ramirez RBI double and an RBI single from Juan Uribe. Kipnis, Napoli, and Gomes all drove in runs off a rattled Harvey in the following inning, giving Tomlin a 5-1 lead to work with. Josh, perhaps affected by that three-week layoff, had to leave after five with a hamstring cramp of some kind (seems to be okay), but he was excellent: 5 IP, 1 ER, 4 H, 0 BB (as usual), 6 K, 1 HR (as usual).
Hey, to be fair, we should probably show Rajai Davis making a good catch, too, because you know we’re gonna show something else sooner than later.
https://vine.co/v/itPz0BMpdHO
Back on the hill, Jeff Manship and Zach McAllister handled the sixth and seventh innings and remained perfect on the season. Then…
For the second consecutive Saturday, Bryan Shaw—former dependable set-up man—found himself staring pure Pestano-dom in the face. His effort in the eighth inning against the Mets mirrored his Chicago meltdown with frightening symmetry.
Shaw vs. White Sox, April 9: 0.2 IP, 5 ER, 4 H, 1 BB, 1 HR
Shaw vs. Mets, April 16: 0.2 IP, 4 ER, 3 H, 1 BB, 2 HR
Fortunately, Cleveland had extended its lead to 7-2 behind a Lindor RBI double and Napoli RBI single in the top of seventh, so even after Shaw started another dumpster fire, Francona was able to run on to the field like the bat-out-of-hell ambulance from Madden Football ’92, running directly over Shaw before dragging him off the field in a heap of lost confidence. Cody Allen got a 4-out save. He’s cool.
As for that other guy, the People find Bryan Anthony Shaw… GUILTY of being a potentially really serious problem. Critics have pointed to his velocity drop and some struggles late in 2015, while defenders, like myself, have noted a consistent track record and a quick recovery from a rough April last year. So far, the critics are winning. The only good news is that the Indians bullpen, as a whole, seems at least somewhat prepared for a potential Shaw deletion. Along with the mighty Manship and McAllister, Dan Otero is off to a solid start, and Joba Chamberlain has gotten the job done—not to mention Trevor Bauer as that ever present wild card. Maybe the Bauer-to-the-Pen decision had more to with fears about good ole B. Shaw than we initially realized.
Sunday:
Mets 6, Indians 0
W: Steven Matz (1-1), L: Corey Kluber (0-3)
Boxscore Excerpt: Kluber | 6.0 IP, 6 ER, 9 H, 1 BB, 8 K
“The People vs. Corey Scott Kluber”
If ever there were an argument for the importance of the observable, three-dimensional world over the analytics world, it’d be a game like this one, in which Mr. Tough Luck, the slightly malfunctioning Klubot, was KO’d by the sun. Along with a dropped Yan Gomes pop fly in the first inning, the killer second inning rally by New York was propelled by two routine fly balls to center field that both dropped within a few feet of a blinded Rajai Davis. Those disasters went down as a double and triple in the scorebook, and may eventually help contribute to arguments about Kluber’s all-around statistical decline. A sun ball is basically baseball’s equivalent of a tipped ball interception in football.
Sorry, Jared Goff, but 9 out of 10 people aren’t gonna watch the film of that five-pick game. They just see the five.
https://vine.co/v/it3PhrjDVII
As far as the actual outcome of this game is concerned, the sun factor didn’t really matter all that much. The Indians offense was utterly useless all afternoon, managing just three hits off the tricky southpaw Steven Matz, so Kluber’s crummy first inning (before the Rajai center field circus) did all the necessary damage. Still, we’re not talking about the sticks today. There will be plenty of time for that. The question right now is, do we have any reason for legitimate concern about our beloved Hans Kluber?
VERDICT: Not Guilty. There isn’t enough evidence to convict Mr. Kluber beyond a reasonable doubt. If anything, he remains largely a victim of his own circumstances. That said, all the same factors that contributed to his struggles in 2015 are rearing their heads again in 2016, which is more than a little disappointing. The Indians continue to provide nothing in the way of run support, and first innings—along with the much-discussed first pitches—remain points of growing vulnerability.
Corey Kluber in the First Inning:
2013: 1.50 ERA, 3.60 K/BB, Opp: .224 / .267 / .376 / 3 HR
2014: 2.12 ERA, 4.57 K/BB, Opp: .244 / .289 / .346 / 2 HR
2015: 5.62 ERA, 7.25 K/BB, Opp: .272 / .303 / .488 / 6 HR
2016: 9.00 ERA, 3.00 K/BB, Opp: .308 / .357 / .385 / 0 HR
The interesting trend within the trend is that Kluber’s K/BB ratio has improved even as he’s scuffled more at the start of games. His ability to consistently throw strikes, in a roundabout way, has also contributed to players teeing off on him successfully out of the gate.
Anyway, I’m not worried if you’re not worried. The Indians are 5-5. What else can be said but “okay, I guess.”
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Yan’s error was reversed, the only error charged Sunday was to Corey for that ball he whipped into the outfield over Napoli.
The inability to produce with RISP dates back to last season, not a new phenomenon, despite high turnover in the starting lineup which makes me think it is systemic (Fire Ty Van Burkleo). I was super annoyed that after all the pop-flys being lost in the Sun, Terry decided the best way to capitalize was to send up back-to-back bunts.
Also, Rajai falling down WAS not the image being bandied about from yesterday’s game… haha.
Noteworthy streaks ended this weekend:
Over .500 = ended after 1
Napoli’s 8 game hitting streak
3 games with 10+ hits
Looked it up finally.
2013 RISP (stranded per game): 3.53
2014: 3.60 (seventh worst)
2015: 3.60 (fifth worst)
2016: 3.60 (eleventh worst)
At least we are consistent.
As Bode said behind the scenes, the Indians are RISP averse.
Also: I don’t trust Shaw as far as I can throw him. I know his velocity is fine and all, but he can’t locate and is getting shelled.
I always feel like the hitting coach is a real stretch as far as scapegoats go. But trying to come up with a solid explanation for the numbers above is difficult. The Indians have notoriously had bad luck bunching their hits together, which is part of the reason analytics people keep predicting an inevitable turnaround in these numbers. It just never seems to change. Only rational conclusion is that Carlos Santana is the worst player in professional baseball.
The only consistent factors across those three years are Carlos Santana and Ty Van Burkleo.
I raised the point on another thread, but when Lonnie and Jose were struggling in the single digit .200s with hitting, we sent them down to Columbus and they came back hitting damn near .300. My gut tells me it is due to getting actual coaching.
Is it conclusive that all of our hitting problems can be tied to our batting coach? No. But it is conclusive that since Ty has been the hitting coach we haven’t seen anyone get any better which to me indicates he is unable to do his job.
And Lindor went from a .752 OPS in AAA to .835 in the majors. Brantley made the leap in 2014, under Van.
Where are those numbers from?
And of course, part of the issue with those numbers is that good offenses are going to get a lot of guys on base, and thus strand a lot of guys too. Bad offenses real problem is not getting enough guys in scoring position to knock them in to begin with. I’d guess the correlation between RISP stranded and runs scored is not inverse.
https://www.teamrankings.com/mlb/stat/runners-left-in-scoring-position-per-game?date=2016-04-18
They also have LOB:
2013: 14.23
2014: 14.37
2015: 14.79
2016: 12.70
Lotta walks leading to not many runs.
Brantley and the national press have consistently praised his dad as his hitting coach.
http://www.si.com/mlb/2015/06/19/michael-brantley-mickey-brantley-cleveland-indians-fathers-day
Specifically on breaking out in 2014:
Michael rose steadily up the minor-league ladder, hitting as Mickey had taught him. He debuted for the Indians in 2009, at 22, and by 2013 his progress seemed to have plateaued: He batted .284, to the previous season’s .288; he hit 10 home runs, to the previous season’s six; and his OPS was .728, to the previous season’s .750. Before last season he finally agreed to do something that Mickey had been encouraging him to do for at least two years: get aggressive.
Expanding further on his dad continuing to be his hitting coach:
By last Thanksgiving, it was time to get back into the cage in the Douthitts’ backyard—first two times a week, then three and then, by January, five. They started with bottom-hand drills, in which Michael would grip a short, heavy bat they’ve nicknamed Fat Albert with only his right hand and hit off a tee, in order to train his path to the ball. Then he would take two-handed swings at the tee, which was sometimes elevated to encourage barrel control. Then they would fire up the Iron Mike. The goal was the same as it had ever been: to strike the ball to the cage’s back net, never its top or sides.
For the 2015 season, Mickey presented Michael with a new goal: to hit the ball the opposite way with power. “I got very comfortable, on fastballs away, hitting a single to left, because I can,” Michael says. “We were talking about staying over the ball and driving it to left center, over the leftfielder’s head.”
If it were purely bad hitting instruction, in theory, we wouldn’t be getting so many guys on base in the first place. We’re not exactly notorious for being a station-to-station team. You get a lot of strikeouts and double plays, not a lot of hitting behind runners, sacrificing. But then everyone also gets pissed when Kipnis or Lindor bunts, so that hardly seems like a welcome solution.
Has there ever been an extended period where Kipnis, Brantley, Santana, and Gomes were all healthy and seeing the ball well at the same time? It just seems like we can never keep all the plates spinning at once, and thus, the problem with bunching hits/rallies. In other words, there is still an argument for dumb luck.
So I guess his dad should have been fired as a hitting coach before 2014.
Oh agreed. As Steve pointed out, to have a lot of stranded RISP you have to have a lot of RISP. I think if we dug in we’d see it is more a matter of having several very good batters being backed up by several very bad batters.
Let me break this down and see if any of the smarter folks on this board can make sense of it. Just some isolated stats that may or may not mean anything. (ouch we are consistently in the bottom sixth of the league in GIDP, might be related).
Or… as Michael stated very clearly and specifically stated above, he didn’t listen to him. I will take the player at his word, but if you prefer to assume he is lying and that Ty “fixed” Michael be my guest 🙂
New hitting coach in 2013, and Brantley decided to finally take a new approach. Hmm.
OMG I AM BEING THE REASONABLE ONE IN THIS CONVERSATION?!
No, no, no, I have a reputation to maintain so let’s fix this right up: Carlos Santana is the worst player in ALL of professional sports. I am pretty sure he can only see out of one eye and the active eye swaps randomly from left to right.
I’m good with trading him for the next Michael Clevinger.
I mean for godsake here is Terry Francona on Michael’s dad being his hitting coach:
While clubs have been known to take issue with such parental involvement, the Indians do not object to Mickey’s. “His dad knows his swing better than anybody,” says manager Terry Francona. “That he is a former player and hitting coach certainly helps.”
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