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August 12, 2009While We’re Waiting serves as the early morning gathering of WFNY-esque information for your viewing pleasure. Have something you think we should see? Send it to our tips email in the sidebar.
Did Brady Quinn “cheat” in the Brown/White Scrimmage via hand signals? “Derek Anderson said the radio receiver in his helmet wasn’t working Sunday, so he had to work with hand signals. Anderson said Brady Quinn, who was quarterbacking the White team, schooled White defenders on those hand signals, which made it harder for Anderson to work a drive filled with short passes.” If so, did it cost him his job as a starter? [Cleveland Frowns]
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Sixty-three percent of Celtics fans are unhappy with the way their team handled the Leon Powe situation. [Celtics Blog]
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Not Cleveland related, but… “As of this month, EDSBS will be joining SB Nation, America’s largest and finest collection of blogs devoted to sports, sports, and in its spare time, sports. The mortal known as Spencer Hall will be joining them as well, for whatever he’s worth.
What does this mean for this site? More focus, certainly: spread out across two blogs does take its toll, especially when life happens to throw non-bloggy type things in your way. (See: “Bathing,” “Being human with other humans,” or “doing much of anything else.”) This is no complaint whatsoever, but instead a note on the influences forcing a bit of consolidation. A more focused writer is a better writer, even if the focus is on making sodomy jokes while discussing college football writing. Hopefully being full-time will alleviate some of the stresses and shortcuts one takes under extreme chronopressure. (Okay, we’ll still take shortcuts, but the stress will be slightly less than it was.) [Everyday Should Be Saturday]
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“Given that [Leon Powe] wasn’t the quickest or most athletic player in the league before the injury, there are serious concerns that he won’t be able to recover enough athleticism to play on an elite level. That’s the bad news. The good news is that Powe attacks rebounds better than anyone else in the league.” [Cavs HQ]
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And finally, the evolution of cheesy Browns posters, complete with jumpsuits and fishing poles. [’64 and Counting]
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I dont know if these allegation about Quinn are true, but if they are thats a shot at his character. He did not win the job becuase of it though, because really no one stood out in the game.
Why don’t the Browns just take the 5th rounder that is market value for crybaby (DA) and get this thing over with? There’s not a coach or player that doesn’t see what a frail ego that dude has; clearly not somebody you’d ever put in charge of leading your football team. If things aren’t going his way, he cries, mumbles, moans, complains……..quit the game Mangina and be done with that bum.
Ratty is your second string QB, the only ones that don’t undertand this are the fans.
Is he really complaining about that? Teams steal signals every game and the scrimmage was a game-time situation, so it’s how you work around it. Grant-it Quinn knew exactly what the signals were, but it’s no different than Bellicheck stealing signals during a regular season game.
Let’s be honest, they’re going to give Quinn the starting job b/c we don’t know what we have with him. I know that a certain team in Minnesota is in need of a “good” QB and I’d say that DA is a much better QB than Sage or Tavaris and with a guy like AP, that will open up the deep ball. Why not trade DA and try to get a 3rd RD pick (I hope it would be that high) for him and take some pressure off of Brady.
It’s a tough call for me. Sure, Quinn shouldn’t have done it. But DA was an excuse machine for every bad play that he had.
They didn’t run the ball more because he couldn’t be hit. He threw that pick because Quinn was cheating. Not because he threw it to Robert freaking Royal without looking off of him the entire play…
@Scott#4-dead on, thank you. Don’t you think his teamates and coaches note the same?
I completely agree with Isis and Scott. DA is one of the biggest cry babies I have ever seen. Dude is a cancer
he didnt say the pick was because they were cheating. He said it was more difficult to communicate with the recievers, and they were trying to make hand signals on the fly. He even said he should have looked off Jackson before trying to throw the ball there.
@2- Are you saying you want the browns to start ‘cheating’ like the Pats. If somethings like that ever comes out of cleveland, id be very upset.
Also, why is it assumed that quinn has to play because we dont know anything about him. Ratty and Bartel havent played either, should they get a shot? Let Quinn EARN his starting job. I hate this assumption of, ‘lets see what he is.’ put the best player in, and I am convinced the Mangini will do so.
@ 3
I have no problem with that as long as it’s after the 1st game. And, I highly doubt we get a 3rd out of him.
How many times have we heard that DA’s helmet mic isn’t working? This is at least the 5th or 6th time. Either the guy is deaf or he has some plate in his skull that continuously shorts the receiver.
And really, DA, quit the complaining. This is why he doesn’t have the vaunted “IT” factor. The guy isn’t the leader the NFL requires a QB to be.
@ 7 – he may have said he should have looked him off (it was Royal by the way, not Jackson), but why don’t you show me one time Anderson has ever looked off of his initial receiver in the red zone. He can say whatever he wants, its his actions that concern me
I love you, Orson Swindle.
I’m sure that the offense is really becoming sharp in camp because it has to learn two completely different types of play based on the unique strengths of 2 quarterbacks. (all in sarcasim ladden caps)
I’m tired of this BS. Pick a guy, have the receivers and TE’s start getting gelled with the type of quarterbacking they are going to see for at least the beginning of the year. I understand that camp is a “try-out” for many positions, but it also serves the purpose of making the players more familiar with playing together. It only hurts the team to not develope those little things that make players play better together because they have no f’ing clue who is leading the offense.
I covered h.s sports for the Oakland Tribune for a few years while living in SF and was able to watch Powe and always had one player in mind to compare him to: Adrian Dantley. Serious moves that defy his relative lack of athleticism . . .
@ # 12 – yes, it helps to know whether they should run down the field as fast as they can (DA) or whether they should stay withing 15 yards (BQ).
This is garbage! DA was totally joking, that’s his personality! He uses humor to deal with stressful situations it’s a defense mechanism. It’s regarded as probably the most “mature” of all the defense mechanisms. This story is even more B.S. than Shaun Rodgers wanting to go back to detroit.
I’m not saying they’re cheating in Cleveland, BUT there have been numerous former players who are analysts saying that every team steals signs. On a radio show in last week in Cbus, Craig Krenzel even said that every team he was on “borrowed” signs from their opponents.
The cheating wasn’t what I was focusing on, it was the fact that things like that happen during a game and you have to adjust to it. You can’t just cry about it after and blame it on everyone else but yourself when you stare down your WR the whole time and try to squeeze it in there anyways when you know it’s not there.
The signals is different tho because they don’t know 100% that it is X play. They also might be saying they used a signal from the other team, but made it something else trying to confuse them perhaps.
Also, Macnip.. I know who Royal is, but I actually meant Jackson. Heres DAs quote after the scrimmage-
(On D’Qwell Jackson intercepting his pass)- “I saw him running to it. I should have moved him to the left a little bit and I probably would have had it. Obviously, I ran the wrong play than what he called. I’m glad it’s a scrimmage and not versus [a real opponent].”
that sounds like hes taking ownership over the pick.
About gelling a team, sure, thats wonderful when you have no questions who the best players are and who the leaders are on the team. (such as in Indy, NE, etc.) For the browns though, preseason needs to be about getting as many players, as many reps as possible, so that they can find the best product to put on the field during the year. That means at QB too.
I have a hard time believing that Quinn was tipping off the defense. Defensive signals are sent in by a coach, and the coach would have had to be involved in this. I could be wrong, but I don’t buy it.
Double-edged word though. You want the best player out of sync with his receivers and backs or someone not as good who can run a smoother offense? Neither is going to win alot of games, unfortunately.
@ bobby – Thanks for the clarification on Jackson. DA is taking ownership there, but that is the same mistake he always makes. Words are just words, anyone can say that they should have done something different. He has yet to learn from his mistakes and change his actions
The more I look at it, the more I believe the DA statement was a joke. Maybe not a particularly good joke or maybe a joke he secretly believes is true, but a joke nonetheless.
The saying, “You can’t polish a turd,” applies to DA more than any other Brown.
on Mythbusters, they actually did prove, that you can, in fact, polish a turd.
^^^^^
Wow!!! Have we gotten off-track or what, but that is an interesting fact to know.
With the all-Brown uniforms on, DA may look like a giant turd as well.
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