The 5-Hole – Blue Jackets News and Notes: 9/22/09
September 22, 2009JoBernie
September 22, 2009Not that we expected things to be any different, but in the event you were pondering a possible replacement at QB two weeks in, Eric Mangini says “not so fast, son.”
Despite back-to-back shaky performances by quarterback Brady Quinn and an offense that’s tumbled to last in the NFL, Browns coach Eric Mangini said he plans to stick with Quinn.
“Yes, that’s exactly right,” Mangini said Monday during his post-Denver press conference. “I thought there were times that he made some really good decisions,” said Mangini. “Then there were some plays where I felt like he could’ve done a better job with the read and he knows that.”
Mangini stressed that the offensive woes — including one garbage-time TD in eight quarters — are not all Quinn’s fault.
Keep in mind that if Brady Quinn is pulled from his starting job at any point this year, his tenure would be essentially finished in the city of Cleveland. Another quarterback, surrounded by a garbage offense, relieved of his duties. It would also signal another year of rebuild assuming that Derek Anderson continues to be Derek Anderson circa any year aside from 2007.
We’ve had quite the discussion this morning regarding the offense, Mangini and Quinn. I can’t wait to see what the discussion looks like at this point next week following the trip to Baltimore.
So…How’s Sam Bradford’s shoulder?
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More to fix on offense than Brady Quinn [Cleveland.com]
24 Comments
Right decision. Kid needs to play a lot more before a final decision is made. It’s how these things work.
Bring in Saint Tebow of the ‘Glades.
I’ll reserve my right to comment until Isis provides us with his astonishing insight into this matter.
Is it too soon to think about our draft pick(s) for the upcoming season?
Baltimore is 2nd in offensive touchdowns and 3rd in offensive yardage gained. They are 23rd in defensive points given up and 17th in defensive yardage given up. That leads me to two conclusions:
1) Baltimore really DID have a great string of defensive coordinators and they now seem to be suffering through an average one.
2) This team is obviously bizzaro-Baltimore.
No brainer here. It’s far too early to close the book on “BQ–The Starting Years”. Let’s just hope it goes better than the one about DA.
If “St. Tebow” ends up on this team, I really will disown them. The kid is a fullback at best in the pros, I don’t care how far across water he can walk or how many Filipino boys he circumcises in the off-season while globe-trotting with Urban.
Well, I’m glad Brady “works at it.”
Really, that’s his best attribute?
If I don’t have the tools to go build something, but I work really hard at building it, does it matter?
#6, about that book. BQ won’t win 10 games in his career. D.A. did it one season. Put that in your book.
Man, I can’t wait to waste our draft pick selecting Tim Tebow with the number one pick. Its going to be like Brady Quinn all over again. Oh wait… He’s still here? Damn.
Yeah, and how did that DA thing turn out? With a shocking plot twist–the main character turned out to be a murderer: killed an entire team’s playoff hopes in Cincinnati with interceptions. It was M. Night Shyamalan-esque.
Why should this even be discussed, let alone weekly? BQ is a rookie in game experience, and it takes time to develop at that position in the NFL. Let the kid play this season, then you can start making some determination-until then, this weekly patter is missing the points of real emphasis. We already know what DA is and did……his second half of 2007 was miserable, he’s as dumb as a rock, has zero accuracy in the short/medium game, has no leadership skills…….we’ve all been there, seen it, done that. Let BQ play some ball this year…….his line is questionable, his recievers are questionable, he had no tight end………..cmon already. Focus on the defense and what’s being done (or not) in regards to the building blocks of an football team.
Porkfat and Pear St. Clair manning the right side of Mangini’s hand picked line-it’s amazing BQ is still on his feet. Let him play and develop, start focusing on what’s important.
#7, actually it does. I could rattle off a thesis on building things with inappropriate tools and accomplishing something phenomenal but I won’t. Others have already documented it. (one small example: Amazon.com)
That said: I’d argue that the majority of accomplished anythings are made up of the hard working and NOT the naturally talented. Even Jordan used to tour the nation on the talking point of hard work making his success and not talent.
@ isis – Sorry, but if that’s your stance why should Robo and Massa’s performance be discussed and compared to Wells and Rey-Rey at all this year, let alone weekly –
He was a first round pick. He should make an immediate impact in the NFL. Pot, meet kettle.
Now Denny, don’t go using his own statements to question his logic–it’s like the crossing streams in “Ghostbusters”: total protonic reversal.
@ B-bo – More like total moronic reversal, amirite?
Ahhh, I see what ya did with that there–well played, Chris M, well played. Check and mate.
So long, Martin Rucker–we hardly knew ye
“So long, Martin Rucker–we hardly knew ye”
*sniffle* Yup, he sure will be missed.
I don’t understand, I mean, Phil Savage was such a great talent evaluator.
ISIS, why do all those excuses — his line is questionable, his recievers are questionable, he had no tight end — hold true for Quinn but NOT Anderson? Was it because Anderson actually won games, so you held him to a higher standard?
And all the things you said Anderson wasn’t, you actually think Quinn is? Really? Accurate? Really?
This guy is simply not an NFL QB. If you want more games to see exactly what you’ve seen so far, fair enough. I’ll take 14 more if that’s what it take to let all the blind Quinn devotion evaporate!!!!!!!!!
maybe Manstupid should have given the strarting QB some actual reps on training camp. just saying…
quick thought:
the Jets lose like 5 guys on defense and their head coach, then this year they become formidable on defense and approach the game with a winning attitude. The Browns picked up those guys.
I’MA LET YOU FINISH… BUT
I don’t think Bradford is the answer. I think you were just trying to be funny, but let’s not take it too far talking about a QB with inflated numbers playing in a zero defense conference where his back up steps in and puts up the same numbers in his absence. What we need to worry about is building a team AROUND a QB. A talented line, a hard hitting D, a formidable running game, talent at receiver that doesn’t run 1 deep. Better play calling… then you get a Qb to put it all together in a winning season the final piece to the puzzle. I think we take a look at one of Notre Dame’s receivers Golden Tate or Michael Floyd. Maybe Brandon Spikes as a defensive monster. Mays from USC to fill in our hole at Safety. There’s talent out there who could help bring a team along quicker then a QB can, except Ryan, Flacco, and dirty Sanchez… But even those guys weren’t winning games in their rookie years. They were managing games, they were out there to move the ball, and not lose the game. Those three guys were successful in that. Let’s just trade Quinn to New England so he could get some legitimate coaching from a great coach and a Hall of Fame QB. The trade for him later on for a first round pick that we’d waste on a punter regardless….
Now you can finish
TERRIFIC IDEA! Bring in Bradford so Cleveland fans can complain like they do about every single QB and then you can write these types of articles about Bradford in two years. It’s not Brady Quinn. It’s not the QB.
Cleveland fan deserves everything he gets. Hows that grab ya?
I’m far from a Bradford supporter. Truly, I’d love to add Mays or Berry, but the last thing we need with a high first-rounder is defense.
We have so many holes, it’s unreal.
Scott- I think the best option for our team would be getting a player like Chris Johnson or (hate to make a comparison to this no show) Reggie Bush. A guy the defense needs to be aware of. We could split him out, run him up the gut (Bush can not do this), use him in a whole bunch of formations… A player like that would be a way to change the speed of our running game. If Jamal is around next year he could benefit from a game changing speedster like Lendale did in Tenn. Or with James Davis probably being the number one next year, a player who could theoretically get 12 runs and 3-4 receptions a game could take the burden off of james… Kinda early to be talking about April, but hey we are looking at a top 5 pick! Time to get to scouting.