There aren’t many things I hate more than business travel. Let me share a quick story with you. On Tuesday I was scheduled to head to Dallas for meetings Wednesday. The crazy storm had yet to hit Cleveland, but we were informed that we would be diverted to Kansas City because of an ice storm in Dallas, as well as a strong head wind. So a two and a half hour direct flight to Dallas became a two hour and 15 minute flight to KC, followed by a refuel (which took a half hour) and an hour and a half flight to Dallas. We landed in Dallas after 10 PM local time where the roads were extremely treacherous. Oh, and during the layover, my boss called me saying I had to be in Chicago Thursday by 11:00 am to close a deal we had been working on for months.
My wife told me about the massive dump Cleveland was taking from the Snow Gods, yet Continental continued to show my flight on time. After my meetings I headed to the airport, only to see both flights to Cleveland remaining were cancelled. Meanwhile, I was supposed to fly to Chicago Thursday morning. My only option was to get to Chicago last night via Houston. Naturally, the flights that would get me there at a decent hour were oversold. In the end, I sat in the Dallas airport for three hours, arriving in Houston for a two hour layover, (where I encountered Christian Laettner watching the Duke/Wake Forest game – couldn’t be a nicer guy FYI), finally touching down in Chicago at 11 PM local time.
The moral of the story, business travel is the worst, but I’m happy to have my job in these economic times. I know what you are saying, “TD, what does this have to do with Cleveland Sports?” I thought I would enlighten you on the five things in the local sports scene that I hate more than business travel:
Randy Lerner’s aversion to the camera – This has been covered ad nauseum, but the fact remains that the Browns owner Randy Lerner continues to insult his fan base with his actions with the media. I don’t care what he reasons are, if you own an NFL team, talking to the media is par for the course. I’m not asking him to be a camera-hog like Jerry Jones, or even a phony like Uncle Artie was back when he was here in Cleveland, but once or twice a year, he should step out from behind the curtains and answer questions.
The fact that he didn’t introduce new coach Eric Mangini or new GM George Kokinis is abhorant behavior. To make matters worse, Randy stood in the back, far away from the cameras, then snuck out at the end of both pressers without talking to the media. He left team President Mike Keenan to introduce the two men he spent hours and hours interviewing and ultimately hired to run his organization. There was nobody there to answer the questions of why these two men were hired. What did he see in Mangini that made him strike so quickly to nab him? What was the rationale behind hiring a coach before a GM? Was Kokinis even on his radar screen until Mangini became the coach?
These questions remain unanswered while Boy Randy continues to hide out in New York City. Great idea for an organization that has an image problem.
David Dellucci still being a member of the Indians – On the Mount Rushmore of bad Mark Shapiro ideas, David Dellucci getting a three year, $12 million deal is the George Washington, next to Abraham Lincoln (Matt Lawton four years, $28 million), Thomas Jefferson (Ricky Gutierrez, three years, $11.5 million) and Theodore Roosevelt (Jason Johnson for the rotation). Even when I thought Dellucci was serviceable, I never understood the fascination with the scrub-dog.
Sources tell me it was former Rangers manager and at the time Indians special advisor Buck Showalter who pushed hard to get DD onto the Indians. Nobody else was offering a third year, yet Shapiro and his advisors thought having him around for that length of time wouldn’t backfire. What made them think that was a good idea? Outside of being a bit player in the bandbox of Texas, he was a career backup who was on the down-hill slope of his career. Naturally, within a month of being in Cleveland, he proved to be nothing short of a disappointment who couldn’t stay healthy.
I still maintain the best thing for the 2007 Indians was Dellucci tearing his hamstring, forcing the likes of Franklyn Gutierrez and Ben Francisco to see regular at bats with the big club, as well as the trade-deadline acquisition of Kenny Lofton, which sparked not only the team, but took the Tribe fans back to the good old days of the mid 90’s.
Lucky for us, we get to watch another year of Double Deez butchering the ball in left, and flailing badly at breaking pitches. Save for the three run jack off of Joba Chamberlain last May in New York (which saved his job by the way) and the single to finish oiff the improbable monster comeback against Detroit in 2007 at The Jake, name me one single thing he has done worth mentioning?
The fact that the Browns still own this town while The Cavaliers may be the best team in the NBA – Seriously, the Cavaliers sit at 21-0 at home, have arguably the best player on the planet heading right into his prime, and a supporting cast full of team first, winners with excellent attitudes and work ethics; yet everyone in this town wants to talk about George Friggin Kokinis and whether or not he gave good press conference.
I’m as guilty as anyone; I led this piece with Randy Lerner. Seriously though people, this is the greatest Cavaliers team in their history. Lebron James continues to amaze us each and every night. Mo Williams is finally the sidekick Lebron has always wanted (nothing like five, six, and seven three-point outings in his last four games). With Delonte West and Zydrunas Ilgauskas down with injuries, guys like J.J. Hickson, Sasha Pavlovic, and Tarence Kinsey have stepped up their games and filled in more than admirably.
Coach Mike Brown’s defensive mind-set has been completely bought into by every member of the roster. Just ask Lebron, who after the 117-110 win over Sacramento Tuesday night was more upset about the lack of focus on the defensive end that excited about the W. Ben Wallace is defending like his old self, and Anderson Varejao is playing the best basketball of his career on both ends.
So I implore you people, lets stop the Browns talk until they show us something other than a bunch of bland puppet running the asylum.
The Cavaliers Having Seven Retired Numbers – Seriously, is there anything more ridiculous than a franchise who has won exactly one division title and reached one NBA Finals since their inception in 1971, having as many retired numbers as the Cavs do?
Mark Price, Brad Daughrety, and Austin Carr are exempt from this conversation. Nate Thurmond has his #42 retired. You know how many years Nate The Great played in Cleveland? That would be less than two. That’s a joke. That’s like the Indians retiring Kevin Millwood’s number. Both had a memorable, yet short run in Cleveland. It’s preposterous.
What about Larry Nance? Nance was excellent player and a key member of the Cavaliers teams of the last 80’s early 90’s. The man that Jim Chones always described as “what a talent,” was a complimentary piece that actually wore two numbers during his six and a half year run – 6 and 22. A nice player, but certainly not worthy of a jersey retirement.
Bingo Smith? Sorry, unless you were actually an all star at some point in your career, you cannot be considered for a jersey retirement. Not only was he not an all star, his HIGH season scoring average was 14.8 in 74-75. Bingo was on the scene right as I was born, so obviously I can’t speak to his abilities as a player. I do know that he was a major player during “The Miracle at Richfield” year, but nothing in his statistics illustrate the need for his jersey to be in the rafters at The Q. His longevity (nine seasons) is the soul reason he is a Cavs “legend.”
The O-H-I-O Hang On Sloopy Routine – Go ahead Buckeye fans, kill me for it in the comments section. Growing up, I knew that the Ohio State band’s unofficial party song was Hang On Sloopy, and I had no issue with it. But some time in the Tressel era, the ever-so-annoying O-H-I-O chorus was born. Maybe someone out there knows the genesis of this.
I’m sorry, to me, it’s like fingernails on the chalkboard. No matter where you go now, Tribe games, Weddings, anywhere – if you hear Hang On Sloopy, you can expect the O-H-I-O to be broken out by someone. (SIDE NOTE – I am not a big Buckeye fan, but I do love The Sweater vest. That’s my guy. He is no-nonsense and tells it like it is, but always comes off well when doing it) If I never hear that chant again, it will be fine by me.
The only thing worse than hearing Hang On Sloopy in a Crowd is watching Braylon Edwards to the arm motions, then have the nerve to a year later to blame the disconnect between him and Browns fans on being a former Michigan Wolverine.
Author: TD
TD is a born and bred Clevelander who agrees with ESPN's Scott Van Pelt when he says ""Ranch Dressing makes everything better except for cereal and ice cream."TD has written 253 articles for Waiting for Next Year.
TD-on the mark and well said in regards to Randy Lerner (the invisible man).
There is also an adage in business that you hire people that you like, and people that have your characteristics. What is equally (well, almost) as disturbing as the gall and balls displayed by RL to stand at the back of the room during key pressers is the communication skills (or lack thereof) brought to bear by Mangini specificially and Mankok generally.
Lerner has perpetuated his own image in his choice of coach and gm.
“Stong headwinds” – giggity
That O-H-I-O chant preceded Tressel. I can remember doing it at Spring Break in college back in the mid 90’s (I’m no OSU fan either, but you gotta give the homestate love when on the road).
The fact that the Browns still own this town while The Cavaliers may be the best team in the NBAYESS!!! Although I’ve always been a bigger cavs fan than Browns fan. I know it’s a football town, but can you forget your misery for like 3 months and enjoy what’s happening here?
Another side point:
- The talk about how helpful LeBron would be to the Browns if he suited up, ignoring the effect it would have on his NBA career
O-H!!!!
Think of Dellucci as an insurance outfielder at this point. He’ll be history when LaPorta is brought up, which I imagine will be no later than the start of the ‘10 season. He does hit very well in Texas, though. I recall him having a huge couple of games there last season.
My wife and I were complaining this weekend about the lack of Cavs support… we wanted to each get a new Cavs shirt / sweatshirt, and after visiting 2 malls, 2 Dicks sporting goods, etc we ended up driving from Avon to the Q and the actual Team Shop.
Most places have 5-10 x the Browns stuff, and one small tiny section of Cavs, mostly LBJ jerseys… Pathetic
We have such a great team, would be nice if the city supported them 50% that they do the browns.
Any chance that Randy avoids cameras because his pants are about five inches too long?
I still am waiting for the hard-hitting interview with Kokinis and Steve Langford.
Scott, do you think a belt would help Randy’s low hanging pants?
I’m glad I’m not the only one annoyed by the O H I O thing… I can overlook it at a Buckeyes game, however when they do it at Browns games it’s just plain silly.
dont knock hang on sloopy bro… as a third generation buckeye i know the O-H-I-O stuff (notice the clean language) gets a little old, but its tradition. OSU runs this state no matter what you say. Its the only thing ohioans all agree on. Hang on sloopy is sweet! I remember being in new orleans for the national title game against lsu and seeing stupid lsu fans singing along and wondering if they knew it was our state rock song. how many states actually know their state rock song?!
As far as the cavs: the browns are the old school #1 fave in cleveland, while the tribe came on strong in the 90s. But ANY real cleveland fan would know that when lebron was drafted that cleveland became cavs town. If your still stuck on the browns then go see and phychiatrist, get some meds and buy some cavs gear online (its cheaper there anyways). My family has had cavs season tickets longer than any of the other cleveland teams and we NEVER have wasted our money on the browns psl’s. not only is it a rip off but they really havent given anyone a reason to attend every home game since the kosar era, and even that was a push. Go out there, order some cavs tickets, buy some cavs gear, talk up the team on the national message boards and establish true home court advantage for a team that is friggin (again notice the clean language) 21-0 at home!! 21-0 are you kidding me?! Despite your point the cavs do have the best viewership among nba teams for local broadcasts….
L-train to the hoop, throws the HAMMER down!!
“But ANY real cleveland fan would know that when lebron was drafted that cleveland became cavs town.”
Huh, that’s funny because for the most part our posts about the Browns get 2-3x more views than any of the other teams.
@Rick – you get 2=3X more views about the Browns because Cleveland fans love to complain. What’s the fun in celebrating a good team? That’s not what Cleveland fans do.
PLEASE – more Cavs … flood the zone…. PLEASE …..
I think you’re off on Delucci… the signing itself isn’t bad … but still playing him is BRUTAL… Or just cut him… Almost every team has some dead money and sometimes you have to cut the cord… first step to getting help is admitting you made a mistake
IO!!!!
I’m a Buckeye grad and I’m quite frankly sick of it as well. You’ve got some good rants, you should consider writing for CursedCleveland.com
good post – am sorry to hear about the travails of business travel.
With regards to the O-H-I-O chant, I would have to disagree, and argue that it’s a regionally unique and endearing way for Ohioans to show camaraderie. I’ve lived and worked abroad for several years, and on a return trip to the US a couple years ago, found myself tearing up a little at a bar (go ahead laugh, hahah) when Hang on Sloopy was played late in the evening…the collective O-H-I-O really brings you back home when you’ve been away.
About the Browns addiction, can we have a WFNY ten-step plan on how to break the habit? Seriously.
I kinda skimmed the article since it’s so long (more laziness on my part than anything else).
I don’t like chanting O-H-I-O during the hang on sloopy song. However, the
O-H…
…I-O
chat is awesome. I think it’s cool when you’re in another city and random people yell O-H just because I have a T-shirt on
I think its ridiculous that the media thinks they are “owed or entitled” to any kind of access. I think its completely their perogative to stay away from the Media because they are so fickle and judgemental they often take their position of prominence too far to hold grudges in public.
grow up, These are people, not bland corporate entities like you claim. Just because you have never talked to Lerner doesn’t mean he’s bland.
In fact he leads a much more interesting life than you or I do. Just becaue he likes his privacy makes him the bad guy?
No, its just people in the media who are upset, the fans probably don’t care at all.
Thank you for mentioning the Cavs retired jerseys. I did see Bingo play, many times. We all loved him because on teams that were worse than awful watching him hit a shot from 25 feet was about the only thing we had, regardless of how bad we were losing. He had no conscience about jacking it up whether we was hot or ice cold, kind of like Pete Maravich but without the ball handling or scoring. Nate Thurmond? This has been a pet peeve of mine for years. It’s like if Ben Wallace were 6 years older and retired right now after doing what he’s done for us so far. Total joke. The town loved him because he was the sage-type guy during the “Miracle.” It was a “miracle” because all of our sports teams had been horrible for years, and winning a playoff series seemed to be just that. Retiring those jerseys was just a marketing ploy, and a play for fan nostalgia, for an organization bankrupt of on-court accomplishments.
Larry Nance is 15th all-time in blocked shots. At one point, he led all forwards in NBA history in blocks. Looking down the list, he’s still one near the top amongst forwards. (Depends on what you call Tim Duncan.)
He’s in the Cavaliers Top 10 in points, rebounds and blocks. Compare his career numbers to Z’s. Nance’s are better in points, rebounds, field goal percentages and blocks. Discounting his final year, he never averaged below 16.3 points per game with the Cavaliers. Z has averaged above that just twice in his career.
If you think Z’s number should be retired one day (and I don’t know if you do) Nance’s should stay up there as well. Besides, the Price-Daugherty-Nance era should be remembered and honored that way.
I believe I’ve gone on record before as saying I think them playing Hang On Sloopy at the end of the third quarter of BROWNS GAMES might be the single dumbest thing I’ve ever seen.
I’m not an OSU fan. I’m not at an OSU game. There are NO OSU PLAYERS ON THE FIELD. Give it a rest.
We need to really embrace the Cavs as the #1 organization in this town simply because they are. They have put out a consistent winner the past 4 years, and this year we are THE BEST in the NBA. I think Thurmond’s number being retired is a joke also, Nance was a nice player for us and should be remembered for it. BUT, his number shouldn’t be retired, he should be inducted into some type of Cavs HOF.
DP – Hang on Sloopy is Ohio;s official state song so not sure why it’s so stupid to play it during Browns games. It would be akin to the Atlanta Braves playing “Georgia on my Mind” in between innings at a baseball game. It’s not like they’re playing Carmen Ohio or a song specific to the university. Don’t aim unnecessary enmity towards a song that is unifying for our region/state!
good calls. Although those wouldn’t be my top 5 gripes, they’re definitely in the top 20 overall.
During “Hang On Sloopy” – scream GO-BLUE-GO-BLUE when everyone else is yelling O-H-I-O. You can get some weird looks.
Humboldt says “DP – Hang on Sloopy is Ohio;s official state song so not sure why it’s so stupid to play it during Browns games. It would be akin to the Atlanta Braves playing “Georgia on my Mind” in between innings at a baseball game. It’s not like they’re playing Carmen Ohio or a song specific to the university. Don’t aim unnecessary enmity towards a song that is unifying for our region/state!”
Actually ‘Beautiful Ohio’ is Ohio’s state song, not ‘Hang on Sloopy’. Everybody knows that ‘Hang on Sloopy’ is synonomous with OSU. It’s not really akin to playing ‘Georgia on my Mind’ – playing ‘Beautiful Ohio’ would be. I don’t feel either on this issue, but feel we should be fair and accurate with our ‘facts’.
The Hang on Sloopy complaints are now in my top five annoying things.
It is a game of percentages. More people in Ohio like it than not. It isn’t stupid to do it at the end of the third quarter at Cleveland Browns stadium if the majority of the patrons to the stadium enjoy it and play along.
I can’t STAND the “Every-Body Clap Your Hands” thing, and refuse to participate in it. So what? I am wrong, apparently because everyone else seems to dig it and it happens at every Cavs game.
Just don’t participate in it if you don’t like it. It isn’t going to stop though because it is a majority rules type of situation. You can’t win this argument with logic. Trust me, I know how frustrating that is, but that’s way it goes.
@#6 Mike W.
I’m glad I’m not the only one. We’ve basically scoured the city to find Cavs gear (without having to pony up the cash at the Q) with little to no success. We are a football town, but seriously, The Cavs have the best record in the NBA and are 21 AND 0 AT HOME! The Browns can’t go 2-1 at home in a three game span.
The O-H-I-O deal is only acceptable during Buckeye games. I heard it at a wedding over the summer and prmptly went outside for a smoke. I’m a Buckeye fan, but give it a rest at Browns games, Cavs games, weddings, and even funerals (true story).
@redifrogger: it is, in fact, one of two recognized state songs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_songs
So the “Georgia on my mind” analogy holds.
Hang on Sloopy is an Ohio pride song, and probably 95 percent of people at Browns games are from Ohio. This should not be a point of grievance!
@Steve – I don’t think anybody wants access to Randy’s personal life.. Just his rational how he leads the franchise…
Every game the Cavs get closer to a title and the Browns rein on this city will be closer to the end… it won’t happen overnight but it will happen in the next 2-6 years.
Presume the Browns have another 3-4 bland years… A 25-year old Cleveland resident will have known a pretty solid baseball team since 1994, and a Cavs team that will likely have 1-2 world titles… an OSU football team that’s been an national power for the bulk of his life….. and Browns team that treats people like crap and has done nothing since that person was old enough to understand sports…
I can tell you one person who agrees the Cavs should be this town’s #1 team.
I know the Browns have a history that the Cavaliers don’t, but man….that was 40 years ago. The only things I know about that era I know from reading in books.
In my lifetime (born in 1979), neither team has a title.
Conference Championships:
Browns: 0
Cavaliers: 1
Conference Championship Games:
Browns: 3
Cavaliers: 2
Division Titles:
Browns: 5
Cavaliers: 0
Playoff appearances:
Browns: 9
Cavaliers: 13
Winning Seasons:
Browns: 10
Cavaliers: 14
I mean, those are pretty similar resumes. In my lifetime, I feel like the Cavaliers have been every bit as relevant and significant of a franchise as the Browns have been.
@Humbolt:
No, the Hang On Sloopy thing is on par with the Seahawks playing Louie, Louie (per your Wikipedia article). Some guy in Ohio saw that Washington was going to name Louie, Louie their “state rock song” and wrote a column suggesting Ohio do the same with HoS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hang_on_Sloopy
“The song gained an association with The Ohio State University after its marching band began playing it at football games; it first played it October 9, 1965 after a band member, John Tatgenhorst, begged the director to try playing it. After finally convincing the director, Tatgenhorst arranged the song and the band played. After the crowd reaction, the band began to play it at every game and now it is a Saturday tradition to play the song before the start of the fourth quarter of every Buckeye game.
…
In April 1985, a columnist for the Columbus Citizen-Journal, Joe Dirck, saw a wire service story about a proposal to designate “Louie, Louie” the state rock song of Washington and wrote a column about it. This goaded the 116th Ohio General Assembly into action and it designated “Hang on Sloopy” the state rock song by House Concurrent Resolution 16 on November 20, 1985, with clauses including
‘WHEREAS, “Hang On Sloopy” is of particular relevance to members of the Baby Boom Generation, who were once dismissed as a bunch of long-haired, crazy kids, but who now are old enough and vote in sufficient numbers to be taken quite seriously’
and
‘WHEREAS, Adoption of this resolution will not take too long, cost the state anything, or affect the quality of life in this state to any appreciable degree, and if we in the legislature just go ahead and pass the darn thing, we can get on with more important stuff.’”
IN OTHER WORDS, IT’S STUPID. “Ohio Pride Song?” Hardly. It has nothing to do with Ohio at all. It has nothing to do with OSU other than some kid in the 60’s begged the director to let them play it, and people liked it.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BROWNS. I am an Ohio resident since birth, and THE SONG DOES NOT MAKE ME FEEL PRIDE IN OHIO.
In short, I think the “state pride” argument is the second stupidest thing I’ve ever heard, with the first being the Browns playing Hang On Sloopy at the end of the 3rd quarter. For the record, that Wiki article says the Indians play it in the 8th inning every game too, which I also find to be stupid.
“It has nothing to do with OSU other than some kid in the 60’s begged the director to let them play it, and people liked it. ”
I don’t think you can go that far. It’s an OSU tradition. To anyone who went to OSU, you feel a connection to that song.
I agree with your point overall, I think it has nothing to do with the state at all, and I’ve always thought it funny that they play it at Browns games. I love it when they play it, but I’m an OSU alum. I’ve always wondered what non-OSU alums thoughts about it being played at Browns games. Now I know.
But you can’t say it has nothing to do with OSU. It may not have originally, but it certainly does today.
Agree on Bingo and Nate–disagree on Nance. Playing Sloopy at Browns games does give the fans something to cheer about considering the Browns usually suck and the Bucks are having a good season…however, the “cheer” of “O-H” followed by an “I-O” at any event other than a Bucks game is beyond stupid–glad we all know how to spell the state we live in.
Lerner is a tool–agreed. Media coverage of Cavs vs. Browns this year is embarassing…DD is a bust–like paying multiple years for Kevin Ollie and Ira Newble…
No, Rock, I agree that it means something to OSU people. My point was that I bet a lot of OSU people don’t know WHY. Further, it has NOTHING to do with the Browns.
I just think the “It’s an OHIO song, so OHIOANS should feel pride in it” argument is about as silly as any I’ve ever heard. The people that designated it an “official Ohio song” did so tongue clearly in cheek, and for no discernable reason other than that.
DP – I’m still not sure why this raises your hackles so much. Crazy.
The song is largely associated with Ohio State, which no one denies. But it also has resonance for Ohioans since it is a codified state song written by an Ohio band.
And my original point was that for me, personally, the song always reminds me of Ohio, particularly when I’m living/serving abroad. It may be different for you, but save your vitriol for something that matters
Do you want to know the truth?
I think it’s a stupid song.
There, I’ve said it. It makes no sense lyrically, and as a “school song” for OSU. I just don’t “get” it. I wouldn’t classify my feelings as “vitriol”. I thought I was being kind of tongue in cheek goofy about it in my really long “the whole thing is stupid” comment, but since there’s no inflection on typed comments I can see why people might think otherwise.
Plus, I’m a bit neurotic and tend to obsess over small, insignificant things.
Am I the only that notices Brad Daugherty had a really weird …. uhm… neck beard….. ? What the heck is that thing…. No hair on the chin but hair on the neck? It’s like he’s Amish….
really people?
ok,
1) lerner: yeah, we know… it bothers everyone. dead horse.
2) oh, c’mon.. he’s not THAT bad as far as utility players go… plus he has a cool “jack from lost” facial hair thing going on
3) the nfl is the number one sport in america. the browns are a storied franchise in the nfl. the nba is the number THREE sport in america. the success of the cavs (as stated in your 4th comment) is NOT very storied. football trumps basketball everywhere people who can afford to buy ungodly high priced tickets live. it is what it is.
4) …you know, i never really thought of this one before. but i would be willing to bet that if you look through other teams rafters you would find just as odd picks.
5) of all the things to have a beef with at a browns game (like, oh i dont know, THE ACTUAL GAME), this is what you choose to sound off on? hang on sloopy? i think craig said it best with his comment about that stupid clap your hands song.
i dont belong to the YMCA, i dont find it particularly exciting to stay there, and i dont regularly dress up as any one of the village people, but i dont get all up in arms every time i’m at a wedding and that stupid song comes on (i mean its a gay anthem..being played at a wedding between a guy and a girl! it makes no sense!)
…i’m going back to work now
I kinda feel like this whole thing boils down to the fact that we tend to assume that someone from an area will appreciate the local team. Since I lived in the Knoxville area for 8 years was always shocked when someone liked the Gators more than the Vols. Same thing here close to Mansfield. Its almost astonishing when someone doesnt root for the Buckeyes.
I really dont care either way. I will sing along with the song but I wont do the O H I O thing since I’m not really a tOSU fan.
@#26 Craig – I always laugh when they play the “Evrybody Clap Yo Hands” thing at Tribe games, the clapping hands on the Jumbotron are soooo off beat!
DP
i read all ur posts so i dont know who is inflating those browns entries
one hop this time
You go DP! I am born and raised here but I hate that song too! I am not an OSU alum so its not required liking and I completely agree…its annoying.
We have the best player in the whole sport with LeBron! How awesome is it that he plays on OUR team???!!! We’ve all labored through season after season of each sport with high expectations only to be crushed at the end. This time it has to be different, because Lebron is the difference maker for a championship.
The “Everybody Clap Yo Hands” thing…hate it.
The Miami Heat have retired two jersey numbers. #23 and #13. 23 is for Michael Jordan and his contribution to the game. 13 is for Dan Marino.
I’m not saying they have a rich tradition or anything, but really? Marino and Jordan?
Phoenix retired Barkley’s jersey, even though he was only there 4 seasons, and never won them a title.
New Jersey retired Buck Williams’ number. He never averaged more than 18.5 ppg in any season. He made the all-star team 3 times.
Did the Force/Crunch/Force ever retire Otto Orf’s jersey?
They retired #’s 00-99 by shutting down.