May 22, 2013

Cleveland Sports Life Boat – Cleveland Indians Starting Pitchers

Indians Pitcher Life Boat

I am a huge fan of the Ron and Fez show on Sirius XM Satellite radio. They do a bit on the radio called life boat, and I’m borrowing it for Cleveland sports. Here’s how it works. There are four people and only three seats remaining on the life boat. You must work your way through the list of candidates and, unfortunately, someone is designated to try their hand at long-distance swimming.

A couple rules.

1. You MUST pick three people to ride in the boat. “Let them all drown!” isn’t an interesting answer and frankly, you’re not funny. It’s been done, so skip it.

2. Don’t use an overly silly premise for your answer. Life boat is a silly enough premise where you aren’t going to “wow” anyone with your take that you should “keep the fatter guy because at least when we turn to cannibalism, we’ll have someone tasty to eat!”

So, this Cleveland sports life boat is Indians starting pitchers. The candidates are:

Charles Nagy, C.C. Sabathia, Bartolo Colon, and Cliff Lee [Read more...]

Former Indians comment on Michael Bourn signing

This season the Indians have committed (we use the term loosely as the Tribe could always flip these deals) $117 million dollars to free agents. The past three off-seasons, Cleveland has spent just over $11 million total to free agents. This fact was not lost on players, current and former.

That’s why Michael Bourn’s deal was a big surprise to Cleveland fans, as well as some former Indians-

Anthony Castrovince tweeted about his conversation with former catcher Victor Martinez, now with the Tigers-

“I broke the Michael Bourn news to Victor Martinez. “Wow,” he said. “I guess they want to win now, huh? How ’bout that?” #Indians”

The sentiment was shared by former Cy Young winner with the Tribe C.C. Sabathia, who was quoted by CBS Sports’ Danny Knobler-

“CC Sabathia on Bourn signing: “I never got a free agent like that when I was there. Good for them.”

[Related: On Michael Bourn: The Terry Francona Effect Continues To Pay Dividends]

Baseball needs a taste of the NFL’s collusion

I continue to chuckle when I see pundits get angry about the NFL colluding and forcing the Cowboys and Redskins to pay for their players the way the contracts were originally designed. In the end, I take some umbrage with the use of the word “punishment” when the NFL just forced the Redskins to pay for Haynesworth’s deal over the course of a couple years. A punishment would have been adding on a penalty on top of it in my point of view. Regardless, to think that there’s something wrong with this collusion in professional sports is laughable when looking at Major League Baseball. In the end, the Cowboys and Redskins tried to use their deep pockets to gain an advantage over other teams. They tried to buy their way out of bad contracts they signed. In Major League Baseball there is no need for such shenanigans. Baseball could use a bit more collusion if anything.

Before you accuse me, I am not defending MLB owners. These guys make their own beds. Nobody forces teams to sign guys to ten year deals for fractions of billions of dollars. In many cases these deals seem to strike themselves without multiple bidders. Maybe it just goes to show the power of baseball agents. No matter. I am not defending baseball owners. I couldn’t care less what’s best for them and their checking accounts except where it impacts me as a Cleveland Indians fan. In this case the Dolans aren’t an ownership group with funny money. [Read more...]

What the Big Three Trades Have Meant to the 2011 Indians

In 2008, the front office started the long and arduous process of ripping my heart out.

In July of that year, they admitted what I wasn’t ready to: the team wasn’t good anymore.  Whether it was due to injury, poor luck, or simple regression didn’t matter.  Only that the team wasn’t good enough to win the division, and that it wasn’t likely to get better before we lost our biggest pieces to free agency.

Once that was established, the front office worked to cut costs, ship out talent, and roll the dice on the trade market.  This process culminated with Victor (and me) crying on an otherwise beautiful July afternoon in 2009.  For me, that was the most devastating sports loss of my life: watching a guy that wanted nothing more than to play for my team, a guy I loved watching and rooting for without condition, a guy who was everything that was right about caring about sports, be sold for parts, chop-shop style. [Read more...]

The Truth About Trades

Justin Masterson takes the mound tonight for the Indians, looking to improve his record to 3-0. He has given up just 2 runs in over 13 innings of work this season, for a 1.35 ERA, with a 3:1 strikeout to walk ratio. Carlos Carrasco bounced back from a bad first start, and has pitched well enough to win his last 2 starts, even though his defense let him down against the Angels. He is second on the team with 13 strikeouts. Michael Brantley will be leading off and playing centerfield, with a .311 batting average and an OPS of .773. Matt LaPorta has struggled to begin the season. He has struck out more times (9) than he has had a base hit (7).

Why bring those players up? Because they were of course the centerpieces to the deals that sent Sabathia, Cliff Lee and Victor Martinez out of town. Their performance on the field will determine if the deals made were ‘good’ or ‘bad’. Regardless of contract status, public perception of the trades necessitate that these players turn into shadows of Sabathia, Lee and Martinez and lead the Indians to the World Series.

I say it has to be a World Series, because I believe the trades of Victor, Cliff and CC will never be viewed as ‘good trades’ otherwise. I think that sports fans are conditioned to believe that the only ‘good trade’ is the type where my team fleeces your team. [Read more...]

Are the Indians Suffering From a LeBron Hangover Too?

One of the worst parts about LeBron James leaving Cleveland was for season ticket holders.  As everyone knows, Cleveland Cavaliers fans needed to be speculators and try to guess if LeBron was going to come back or not and make a decision whether to re-up before free agency completed.  I’ll give Cavs fans credit. For such a raw deal, I haven’t heard a ton of complaining.  Make no mistake though, it was a raw deal in terms of value.  Many of those fans who dutifully trudged to the Q this year to watch the Cavs will make or have made their decision whether to keep supporting the Cavs with season tickets next year.  Has their bad experience with Cavs tickets ended up costing the Indians as well?

Don’t think for a second that this is one of those “LeBron James is responsible for every negative thing in the world” types of posts. I want to look at this more like a scientist.  The fact remains that other than the Browns who are immune to everything, the Cleveland sports fan landscape is inter-related.  As a community of sports fans there is tons of crossover between Cavs fans and Indians fans.

When I lived in Boston it was different.  You had some sports fans who were religious about all the teams like any other city.  At the same time there were fans who were definitely Bruins fans first.  In fact, before Tom Brady became one of the best quarterbacks of this generation there weren’t really that many Patriots fans other than the die-hards.  The town had enough fans to have almost distinct die-hard fan-bases for each individual sport and then the people who were fans of all the sports filled it out. [Read more...]

Eric Wedge and Milton Bradley Co-existing Fine in Seattle (So Far)

One of the strangest parts of Eric Wedge getting hired in Seattle was the reunion between the mustachioed grinder and the volatile outfielder, Milton Bradley.  Bradley and Wedge’s history began in Cleveland in 2003 and spring training 2004.  After a reported altercation during that spring, Bradley was traded to the Los Angeles Dodgers for Franklin Gutierrez and Andrew Brown.

The major problems that Eric Wedge and Bradley had were over things like running out fly balls.  You will remember that Eric Wedge was like a little league coach – not that he was wrong – in that regard.  Bradley was also reportedly seen wearing a t-shirt that said “<blank> Eric Wedge.”  So, yeah.  He was traded. [Read more...]

Acquiring Young Talent through Trades—Part One: The Pitchers

On Tuesday I tried to make you feel good about the 2011 Indians.  I told you how if things go just right, this team can compete in the AL Central.  It was a shiny, happy day.  Today I might end up making you feel sort of crummy about the 2007 Indians.  Yes, it’s a weird exercise, but bear with me.

Let’s start with the sell-off that was precipitated by those 2007 Indians underperforming in 2008, taking a team from within one game of the World Series to competing with the Royals for last place.  By and large, there seemed to be two major reactions to the moves of CC Sabathia, Cliff Lee, and Victor Martinez.

The first reaction was one of alienation from MLB as a whole and the Indians in particular.  Any system that encourages the sort of talent-exodus that took place in Cleveland cannot and should not be supported, or so the argument went.  [Read more...]

Eric Steinbach’s Mustache Key in Browns Push for a Winning Season

On Thursday, TD posted a caption contest aimed at poking fun at CC Sabathia’s blissfully self-unaware attempt to explore his New York essence and grow a new look on his face.  Pitchers often grow some sort of extreme facial hair in attempts to add a little extra bit of extra intimidation on the mound.  They often look ridiculous and it’s a trend that needs to cease.  CC looks a like a dope with that goofy beard and he is going for the look in a completely unironic way.

Eric Steinbach, on the other hand, is a contrasting study in the extreme facial hair look.  He comprehends the irony and completely understands that he looks a little ridiculous.  But at this point, it may hold the power in the push to end the season on an extended winning streak and finish above .500.  Steinbach joked with the media this week about his new look and is searchg for teammates to join him in the “mustache push.”  Steinbach stated:

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Jon & Paul Plus Baseball: What to do about Matt LaPorta

In the second installment of our ongoing series with Paul Cousineau of the DiaTribe (introductions here and here), Paul and I decided to tackle the Matt LaPorta situation.

Three years ago, Mark Shapiro said that he had up to seven teams interested in C.C. Sabathia* but the Indians were smitten with a young budding superstar first baseman, and the Brewers owned his rights.  Shapiro said the deal hinged on LaPorta, and without him, a trade might not have gotten done.

*Yes, Sabathia had periods back then, menopause’ll do that to you

Fast forward three years, and here we are.  LaPorta has 162 major league games under his belt, and his numbers are, to say the least, underwhelming.  Furthermore, at nearly 26 years old, he’s supposed to be on the cusp of his offensive prime.

Needless to say, Paul and I are worried.  And when we’re worried, we do what any sentient, time-wasting adults do: we email.  Enjoy: [Read more...]

The Free Agent Ex’s

Ah, the 2007 Indians. So close to winning a World Series. If only CC and Fausto hadn’t wet themselves in Games five and six. If only Joel Skinner didn’t hold up the stop sign on Kenny Lofton. If only Casey Blake hadn’t hit the next pitch for a 5-4-3 tailor made double play….

UGH!!!!

I promise I will get over it one of these days, but that team seemed to be the one who was finally going to put us out of our decades of misery here in Cleveland. Looking back to the core of that team, its become a who’s who of the free agent market over the past few seasons. Lets check in on the best of the best from a team one game away from the World Series. [Read more...]

Updating What We Got For Sandy Koufax

Anyone else enjoy watching Cliff Lee absolutely dissect the New York Yankees last night? That was a Picasso that ole’ Cliff painted  in the Bronx. No runs, two hits, 13 strikeouts, and just one walk against the best lineup in baseball? Can you believe what we are watching?

I think we all knew that Lee was good, but can anybody have imagined that he would turn into Sandy Koufax? That’s what he is folks. He is the best left-handed pitcher in the game and it’s not even close.

The Yankees gave CC Sabathia seven years and $161 million when he hit the market two winters ago. Cliff’s game dwarfs his right now and CC is an All Star. Consider their postseason records after last night:

Cliff Lee – eight starts – 7-0, 1.26 ERA, 0.73 WHIP, 67 K’s, seven walks, 1 HR allowed

CC Sabathia – 12 starts – 6-4, 4.79 ERA, 1.52 WHIP, 64 K’s, 38 BB’s, 10 HR allowed [Read more...]

Counting on Matt

Believe it or not, it’s been two and a half years since the Indians moved CC Sabathia to the Milwaukee Brewers for a package of players intended to “reload” the team for its next cycle of contention.  As the team saw the situation, moving Sabathia was the lesser of two evils, since they had good reason to believe they wouldn’t be able to sign him in free agency when going up against the big boys.

Sure enough, after CC suggested he wanted to stay in Cleveland, he told friends he wanted to sign in Milwaukee.  Then he wanted to play close to home in California.  Then he wanted to play in the NL so he could hit.  Then, quite obviously, he signed with the New York Yankees for the richest pitcher-contract in baseball history.

So it’s difficult to blame the Indians for moving him.  After all, when CC left Milwaukee, the Brewers were left with only two compensatory draft picks.  Hoping to get more for their big prize, the Indians moved him for four players: Matt LaPorta, Rob Bryson, Zach Johnson, and a player to be named, who turned into Michael Brantley. [Read more...]

Paul Hoynes on Wins and the Cy Young

Note: this piece is not about Cleveland sports per se, though it is about the responsibility of one Cleveland sportswriter in particular. Consider yourself warned.

I’ve been debating about whether to respond to this piece in last weekend’s Plain Dealer, but considering that Paul Hoynes writes to a massive and impressionable audience, I think it’s probably worth the time and energy.

In the linked piece, Hoynes suggests that the only stat that matters for a pitcher is wins, and therefore, the Cy Young award should be given to the pitcher with the most wins in his respective league.  He cites last year’s winners (Zack Greinke and Tim Lincecum, with 16 and 15 wins respectively) as evidence that “[t]he value of the win has been devalued by members of the Baseball Writers Association of America who favor statistics meant to remove all influences on the pitcher except himself.”  He thinks this is bad. [Read more...]

While We’re Waiting… Pryor Over Harris, Missing Carlos, and Browns Reversion

While We’re Waiting serves as the early morning gathering of WFNY-esque information for your viewing pleasure. Have something you think we should see? Send it to our tips email at tips@waitingfornextyear.com

On height, leadership, and luck: “[Terrelle] Pryor and [Jacory] Harris share a lot in common. They’re tall; Pryor is 6-6 and Harris is 6-4. Both are juniors. For each, Saturday was his 27th career game. Harris came into Saturday’s game having amassed his 4,700-plus yards mostly through the air. Pryor had thrown for more than 3,600 yards and added more than 1,400 running.

But Pryor proved on Saturday that he has matured into more of a winner, if not leader, than Harris. He raised his record as a starter to 21-3. The Hurricanes lost three games last season alone –- all of which they were favored to win –- in large part because Harris failed, as he did again Saturday, to live up to his billing. He was intercepted eight times in those losses.

Pryor is, of course, luckier than Harris in one way. He signed to play for a better program.” [Kevin Blackistone/FanHouse]

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Be Careful What You Wish For

Rebuilding isn’t really all that fun as a Tribe fan.  How many of you thought that our “window” would be somewhere in the neighborhood of five years after a rebuild?  I did.  So, on second thought, how does two years sound to you?  Instead of a great big picture window in the front of our house, as a Cleveland Indians fan it feels like we replaced the mail slot with the tiniest little pane of glass which is our window to compete.  In some ways this year’s Indians team is exactly the one I clamored for over the last decade.  I am sure that makes me sound absolutely insane to a lot of you.  Well, just so you know, it makes me feel insane to the point that I am wondering if there is any philosophy that a fan can have with the Cleveland Indians that will make sense most of the time.

My philosophy was a well-reasoned reaction to history.  The Indians went from competing at a top level every single season with almost no economic realities in play to constantly playing catch-up while coming to grips with the size of the market that Cleveland truly is.  I could deal with that.  Or so I thought.  After watching Albert Belle, Manny Ramirez and Jim Thome walk out the door for giant dollars, I vowed that the Indians should never do that again.  They should always trade players like that so they could replenish the farm system.  That is exactly what Mark Shapiro did over the last two years.  Maybe it is even working.  The Indians do seem to have a lot of younger players who might eventually allow the Indians to compete at a high level again.  For whatever reason, though, even when I said that is what the Indians should do, I haven’t had the patience or maturity to really deal with the process.   [Read more...]

While We’re Waiting… Sabathia’s Teammates, Training Camp Battles, and Mo Clarett’s Future

While We’re Waiting serves as the early morning gathering of WFNY-esque information for your viewing pleasure. Have something you think we should see? Send it to our tips email at tips@waitingfornextyear.com

On Sabathia’s latest quotes of only “knowing three guys” on the current Tribe roster: “To get back on track: there are 12 players still in Cleveland that CC Sabathia played with in 2007, including the men who played directly behind Sabathia in the 2007 playoffs at 2B, SS and CF. Also remaining are the starting DH, the obvious number two and three playoff starters and a reliever that CC watched become, briefly, the best in the world. So when Sabathia looks back and thinks there are only three players left from his era and one of the three he remembers fondly is a player that wasn’t even on the playoff roster in 2007, that CC played with for, at absolute most, a couple months in his career, it pisses me off. At least acknowledge your middle infielders.” [Lets Go Tribe]

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Indians 4 Yankees 1: The One Where Josh Tomlin Dominates

If there was ever a baseball game to bet on, this was it. CC Sabathia pitching for the World Champion New York Yankees in his return to Progressive Field. The Hefty Lefty had not lost since May 23rd. Opposing him for the Indians would be a 25 year old rookie who hadn’t even been on the 40-man roster before yesterday, Josh Tomlin. With Alex Rodriguez still in search of Home Run #600, this one had all of the making of a Yankees blow out.

But as a wise man once said, that is why they play the game. [Read more...]

Updates on Cleveland’s Recently Acquired Minor League Pitchers

Over the past few years, the Indians have made several trades to stock-pile on young pitchers in their minor league system. Among the notable fan favorites no longer in the red and blue are Victor Martinez, C.C. Sabathia, Casey Blake, Mark DeRosa, Cliff Lee, Rafael Betancourt and others.

But in the meantime, these young pitchers have continued developing up and down the Cleveland organization. From Lake County down to Kinston and back up to Akron and Columbus, these new pitchers have helped the entire Player Development System ranked second overall with 154 total wins this season.

Last year around the trade deadline, I wrote several extended features previewing the various pieces joining the Indians and their farm teams. Now with the majority of these trades over 10 months ago, it is time to re-hash how all of these prospects are doing and map out their hopeful and eventual road to playing in Cleveland.

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Six-Foot-Five Drew Pomeranz Opts For Baseball Over Basketball, Becomes Top-Five Pick

With the fifth selection in the 2010 MLB, the Cleveland Indians were drafting higher than they had in any other season since 1992.  In said year, they drafted second overall and came away with right-handed pitcher Paul Shuey.  With many drafts in between and not much first-round talent to show for it, the Indians made the pick of left-hander Drew Pomeranz – a guy that they hope will be a staple in their starting rotation within a few seasons.

“Its a great honor to be picked by the Cleveland Indians,” said Pomeranz during a late Tuesday conference call.  “I have a friend in the organization and he has good things to say about them.”

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