August 15, 2014

It’s Hoyer’s World… We just live in it: Training Camp Notes 07.26.14

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BEREA, Ohio — The sun was shining. A smattering of hip-hop—2 Pac, Birdman, Drake…of course—and classic rock echoed through the speakers. Thousands of Browns fans poured into the Cleveland Browns practice facility, all with hope in their back pockets, each of them getting their first look at the 2014 squad.

There were Superfans. There were signs. There was a little rain, but just enough to get some reporters to close their notebooks for a few minutes. There was Johnny. There was Brian. There was Josh and Jordan and the Joes. Some players rode bikes, others took part in what would stand to be the first day of two-and-a-half weeks of practice time before the collective is forced to synthesize all that’s been provided to them and turn it in to a product worthy of all the fan fare.

And boy was there fan fare.

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Pilot Flying J reaches $92 million deal with government

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The good news in Cleveland sports continues into another week as Pilot Flying J has reached a deal with the government that includes an avoidance of criminal charges against the company. From the Knoxville News Sentinel out of Tennessee:

Under the deal made public on Monday, Pilot must pay a $92 million penalty over two years and cooperate with an ongoing criminal investigation into diesel fuel rebate fraud.

Federal prosecutors said in a news release that the Criminal Enforcement Agreement “expressly states that it provides no protection from prosecution to any individual” in connection with the case.

We, as a company, look forward to putting this whole unfortunate episode behind us, continuing our efforts to rectify the damage done, regaining our customers’ trust, and getting on with our business,” CEO Jimmy Haslam said in the release.

This is undoubtedly good news for Pilot and its CEO Jimmy Haslam. While it doesn’t appear that anyone’s completely out of the woods just yet, it’s a step in the right direction. Haslam could still be found worthy of prosecution depending on what the investigation continues to uncover. That being said, it would appear that the government is getting at least something of a desirable outcome.

U.S. Attorney Bill Killian is quoted in a news release detailed at the Knoxville News’ website. His quote sounds very much like a conclusion of sorts when he says, “The terms of this agreement, including the significant monetary penalty and the very serious consequences if Pilot fails to comply, demonstrate quite clearly that no corporation, no matter how big, influential, or wealthy, is above the law.”

And regardless of other details this is good news for Browns fans. As the owner of the Cleveland Browns, it is much better for Browns fans if the team’s owner isn’t in jeopardy of being imprisoned. With that in mind, this deal with the feds might be another good sign for Browns fans that the renewed focus on stability might actually be achievable.

It seems reasonable to assume that the government has been working hard on this case and uncovered huge amounts of details with ten previous guilty pleas obtained from former Pilot employees. If they were going to catch the biggest of all fish at Pilot, I’m guessing charges would have been filed for Haslam before a settlement agreement was reached.

Scott Raab on Johnny Manziel, LeBron James and Cleveland’s savior complex – WFNY Podcast – 2014-06-23

WFNY Podcast LogoWhenever the bat signal goes up and Scott Raab wants to go long-form on Cleveland sports I jump at the chance. This morning I talked to him for over an hour on the following topics.

  • The World Cup and the USMNT’s tie to Portugal
  • Cleveland’s “savior” complex
  • Johnny Manziel and his personality
  • LeBron James and his potential return
  • Mike Pettine and Scott’s forthcoming profile of the Browns coach for Esquire magazine
  • The Cavaliers hiring of David Blatt
  • Kyrie Irving, the Cavaliers and Joel Embiid
  • Cleveland Indians attendance talk in the media
  • Sports journalism and the use of anonymous sources

There was even more than all that, but like so many of my conversations with Scott, it all just flowed pretty naturally. Until next time…

Direct download: WFNY_Podcast_-_2014-06-23.mp3

Pettine, Farmer and Haslam set the right tone for Johnny Manziel

Flat Brimmed JohnnyAt the Hall of Fame luncheon in Canton on Monday, Jimmy Haslam spoke about the newest star coming to Cleveland in quarterback Johnny Manziel. Haslam told the gathered crowd about the conversation that the team had with Manziel when he arrived in Cleveland after the draft.

“Mike Pettine said it very well,” Haslam told the very interested group. “Johnny, right now you’re our back-up quarterback and you need to act like such.

“He’s highly competitive, and I think you’ll see a guy that comes in and goes to work and goes to work hard,” Haslam continued. “We were very frank with him on Friday that’s the expectation, you’re the backup quarterback. This is a hard-working, blue-collar town, this isn’t Hollywood. We want you to come in and go to work.”

Judging by Manziel’s comments on Friday, he got the message. At least for now.

“I believe it’s a team game,” Manziel said. “There are a lot of factors that play into everything. I feel like in my situation coming in, whatever’s best for the team, I’m going to do and try to contribute in any way I can. I know from the top, the front office to everybody in the building when I was there, they wanted nothing more than to win and be successful, and I feel like I match that attitude.”

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The ends don’t justify means in Peter King’s defense of Joe Banner and Michael Lombardi

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Peter King is one of the best NFL writers in the nation and as a national guy his perspective can sometimes be instructive to help local fans take blinders off. As a follower of the Browns, it’s pretty easy to lose perspective on the more overarching story-lines that make up an NFL season or era as you’re consistently living and dying with week-to-week results. It’s with that in mind that it’s definitely worth considering when Peter King instructs Browns fans to “Stop cursing Joe Banner and Mike Lombardi.” [Read more...]

Homeless man told Jimmy Haslam to draft Johnny Manziel

Our friend Vince over at Scene Magazine posted this in the Manziel aftermath, and it’s totally worth sharing here as well. Would the Browns have drafted Johnny Manziel if not for a homeless man grabbing the ear of Browns’ owner Jimmy Haslam? Thank goodness we’ll never have to find out. Thank you mister unnamed homeless man. Thank you.

Jimmy Haslam ranked 31st among NFL’s best owners


Jimmy Haslam, that “breath of fresh air” who took over for the Cleveland Browns a little over a year ago, ranks 31st among 32 NFL owners in a list constructed by NBC Sports’

In a tier titled “Alone at the Bottom,” Patrick Daugherty discusses a botched transition that could only happen in the city of Cleveland.

Haslam was gifted with a unique opportunity when he purchased the Browns in 2012: Deliverance. Outside of the Chicago Cubs, the Browns are the most-tortured fanbase in American sports. Haslam could have been the savior, the man who erased Tim Couch, Art Modell and “The Drive.” He could have been a new lease on life for a Dawg Pound that’s sick and tired of the jokes and the losses. Instead, he’s become subject of a federal investigation, and employed as many head coaches in 18 months as the Steelers have in 45 years. Haslam isn’t just more of the same in Cleveland, he’s everything that’s wrong with the modern owner. Haslam is an arrogant, rash, amoral man who believes the law doesn’t apply to him. Someone who will cut as many corners as necessary to ensure he gets as many dollars as possible. Someone who — allegedly, of course — spent years ripping off the exact kind of people who make up the bedrock NFL fandom, a bedrock that is gradually being priced out of attending games. Maybe Haslam will beat his federal rap. He is, after all, a billionaire with more lawyers at his disposal than the average man will ever meet. But Haslam will never beat back the impulses that have made him a(n alleged) criminal and clueless owner, for that would require two things he could only dream of: Humility and empathy. Even if he eventually wins, Jimmy Haslam is not a winner.

Good news for Browns fans who are desperate for something to cling to: Washington’s Daniel Snyder is seated firmly behind the Tennessee businessman. In his first week on the job, Haslam attempted to make Browns fans feel as if he were one of us—the dude sat in the Dawg Pound and greeted fans at the gate. The honeymoon phase, however, ended abruptly, leaving fans with an owner who would be dead last if not for the one who has spent the last 15 years building an “edifice to ignorance.”

It wasn’t all that long ago that Haslam was greeted by his peers with a standing ovation. To Haslam’s credit, the man has—at least over the last several months—taken the proverbial bull by the horns, ridding Berea of self-inflated bottom feeders like Joe Banner and a GM who never showed his face in Mike Lombardi. No longer can the wins and losses of Haslam’s reign be attributed to other men. It’s his show now, and only he can decide which direction his legacy goes, regardless of how little downside there truly is.

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Your move, Browns – Alex Mack signs Jacksonville offer sheet

Who else would report it, but Adam Schefter? Alex Mack’s deal has reportedly been signed and it’s all pretty straight-forward.

So the Browns are on the clock even before the NFL draft. I have no idea how long they’ll take, but I think this is probably a pretty palatable deal if they were true to their word they wanted him back. It gives Mack a good amount of guaranteed money and also the right level of flexibility for a guy who was drafted by Mangini under Randy Lerner before coming up for renewal under Jimmy Haslam and Ray Farmer. Think of it this way, to keep it in perspective. Alex Mack was in the building at the same (very short) time as George Kokinis.

This is certainly far from as bad a deal as what many Browns expected. It also continues to show how silly Mack’s agent was when he said he thought he could create a deal that the Browns would have difficulty signing. The Browns aren’t guaranteed to sign this deal, of course, but it’s not the team killer anyone would have imagined in light of the agent’s posturing.

Hopefully shortly, we can just put this to bed.

Also see TD’s excellent work on new Cleveland Browns receiver Nate Burleson.

Jimmy Haslam discusses relationship with Bill Parcells, role in NFL Draft

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What a difference a year makes. About this time in 2013, Jimmy Haslam was reassuming his role as chairman of Pilot Flying J, placing the Cleveland Browns in the hands of Joe Banner and Mike Lombardi, and speaking only through press releases and legal filters. There was a point where the team he had just purchased was merely a line item within a world in disarray. Today, though still under the microscope of legal scrutiny, the team’s majority owner has reassumed his role of a hands-on owner, sitting down with Browns beat writer Tony Grossi to discuss the lay of the land in Berea.

Grossi and Haslam discussed the team’s relationship with Alex Mack (Jimmy believes Alex wants to play in Cleveland), Bill Parcells (he’s not coming to Cleveland), and Brian Hoyer (he’s a “gamer.”). But the biggest takeaway, in what was another offseason of front office turmoil and severed solid and dotted lines, is the fact that Haslam says that the NFL Draft will be entirely in the hands of general manager Ray Farmer and head coach Mike Pettine.

“We will agree strategically that these are the positions we’ll concentrate on, but Ray and Mike and the football guys will make those football decisions,” said Haslam. “Zero chance [I tell Ray to draft a certain player or position]. We will have so many conversations between now and the draft about who we’re picking, this position or that one, who are the top three or four. We will be all planned out. That’s what getting ready’s all about. We’ll all participate.”

Given the current organizational structure, with Farmer, Pettine and team president Alec Scheiner reporting directly through Haslam, it appears, at least in quote, that things are headed in the right direction—a far cry from this mess, anyway.

Browns have “no comment” on Lombardi’s Browns documents


Is it a big deal that recently ousted Browns employee Michael Lombardi was seen at the NFL combine with documents emblazoned with Cleveland Browns logos? The answer is that none of us have any clue. It certainly seems less than ideal for the Browns, but whether or not it is an actual impropriety or not is impossible to know without finding out from the Cleveland Browns. The team, however has issued two separate “no comment” statements to ProFootballTalk and Mary Kay Cabot.

This could mean a couple things.

1. Maybe the Browns really aren’t sweating it. The team obviously didn’t feel the need to keep Lombardi out of work through the end of the draft, which you would think they could have done by simply paying him to stay home. Maybe they reserved no such rights in Lombardi’s contract, but it seems unlikely that Lombardi would have had leverage to exclude non-compete and non-piracy language from his contract negotiations with the Browns.

2. Maybe the Browns are embarrassed and just hoping this goes away. Who would let a year’s worth of scouting information go straight into the hands of another NFL team? The Browns seemingly just did.

3. Maybe the Browns are pursuing this issue with the league. We have no evidence of this and it is pure speculation, but maybe the Browns didn’t enjoy seeing their logo in the Pats loge at the combine and are seeking to have the situation addressed through channels that require them to not comment at the current time.

Mary Kay Cabot’s report also indicates that Ray Farmer isn’t concerned because the club “followed proper procedures” with Lombardi’s departure. Again, I’m unsure what this means. Does it mean that Lombardi’s exit was handled in such a way that he’s doing something wrong by having documents with Browns logos? Does it mean that it was handled in such a way that it’s cool that Lombardi have those documents?

We’ll find out eventually. Probably. Maybe.

For now, the Browns, unsurprisingly, have no comment.

Joe Banner wanted everyone to report to him on everything all the time

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It was only a matter of time before additional news surrounding the recently departed Joe Banner became public, but that’s not to say much of it would be considered a surprise.

CBS Sports’ Will Brinson penned a recent piece (via CBS’ Pat Kirwan) which painted Banner, ousted after one-plus season as the Cleveland Browns CEO, as a “control freak” who had ultimate plans of his would-be new coordinators reporting directly to him rather than the head coach or even the team’s general manager.

Ousted Cleveland CEO Joe Banner — who is transitioning out of his role in Cleveland after being fired along with GM Mike Lombardi — had the new offensive and defensive coordinators reporting directly to him, CBS Sports NFL Insider Pat Kirwan reports.

Kirwan spoke to a league source at the NFL combine in Indianapolis that told him Banner was a bit of a control freak and structured the coaching staff so that the new coordinators would answer directly to him.

That’s atypical of an NFL team to say the least. Generally speaking coordinators answer directly to the head coach, in this case recently hired Mike Pettine.

“To say that the power structure in Cleveland was different would be an understatement,” writes Brinson. It’s a shame that it took Jimmy Haslam, the team’s majority owner, over a year to realize that Banner was doing more harm in his role than good1 Certainly, Joe Banner spearheaded several moves that benefitted the team in the long-run (i.e. additional draft picks for 2014), but it would be his inability to manage human beings—as had been a reported weakness of his from Day 1—served as his apparent downfall.

Recall, it was Norv Turner, the team’s offensive coordinator, who reportedly blew up upon the firing of Rob Chudzinski. This also corroborates similar reports regarding Chip Kelly and Ken Whisenhunt, both men taking issue with Banner and the way he depicted the team being run on a going-forward basis, both men taking jobs elsewhere—and being incredibly more successful than the 4-12 Browns of 2013.

Under the Browns’ new, more acceptable structure, general manager Ray Farmer and head coach Mike Pettine will report directly to Haslam, with the coordinators funneling through their own, more-typical chain of command. Novel concept, we know.



  1. Haslam obviously had his own fair share of distractions. It’s evident that the murky waters cleared up upon the second head coaching search. []

NFL News: Browns might look to void Davone Bess’ 2014 salary

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The Cleveland Browns have been saying compassionate things about Davone Bess, but it appears that business practicality might be entering the equation as well. Pro Football Talk reports that the Browns are looking to void the second guaranteed year of salary owed Davone Bess via his recently-signed contract extension. If the Browns are successful in doing so, it will save the team just over $3 million of Jimmy Haslam’s money.

The Cleveland Browns are still nursing the black eyes they received over the whole Davone Bess trade situation. Even if the Dolphins were underhanded for their own part in the deal, the Browns looked negligent in their due diligence after revelations that Bess had been involuntarily committed in Florida shortly before the Dolphins sent him to Cleveland in a draft-day deal. While not considered the reason that Jimmy Haslam ousted Michael Lombardi, we’d heard rumblings that Haslam was far less than enthused with his personnel team as the Bess breakdown in Florida came to light.

For their part, the Browns have been pretty compassionate (if a bit quiet) with regard to Davone Bess and his apparent instability as he posted pictures that appeared to indicate he could be using marijuana and then his airport arrest.

The questions abound. Can the Browns be compassionate while also looking to void Bess’ salary for 2014? Can they void “guaranteed” money if a player’s own intentional actions leave him unable to perform his duties as an NFL player? Is there anything forthcoming from the NFL with regard to disciplinary action over either Bess’ arrest or his apparent use of banned substances?

One thing’s for sure. The strange tale of Davone Bess isn’t over just yet.

[Related: The Decomposition of Davone Bess]

Sports Illustrated ranks Browns last in NFL in offseason outlook

photo2While the majority of folks on the shores of Lake Erie seem encouraged by the Browns’ recent shakeup in the front office, nationally, the franchise is still regarded as a joke.

Sports Illustrated released an offseason outlook ranking for the NFL, with the Cleveland Browns checking in dead last at No. 32. The off-beat rankings were calculated based off grading on a scale of 1-5 across four categories: pending free agents, cap space, amount of draft picks, track record of GM/management. They were not necessarily related to success on the field in 2013.

Although the Browns have lost at least 11 games over the last six years, there is still a sense of optimism locally heading into this offseason because of over $45 million in cap space and 10 picks in the upcoming draft, including three in the top 35. In fact, Jacksonville, the No. 1 ranked team, is similar with their $50 million in cap space and 10 picks, although the bulk of those picks are later in the draft.

While one would think those factors would surely have the Browns checking into these offseason outlook rankings somewhere besides the very bottom, the perception of the team’s front office plummet them to No. 32.

In a set of rankings where categories were graded 1-5, the Browns’ front office situation received a grade of -5, thus shooting the Orange and Brown to the bottom of the list.

Here’s what SI had to say about the team’s offseason odds.

32. Cleveland Browns

Breakdown: FAs: 2 | Cap: 4 | Draft: 4 | GM: -5 | TOTAL: 5

The Browns have $45.5 million in cap to spend in the new league year, and two first-round picks after fleecing the Colts in the Trent Richardson trade. There’s a lot of talent on defense, and a few real playmakers on the offensive side of things. In other words, everything needed to build a real NFL powerhouse. Unfortunately, a front office that deserves a far lower rating than the one we were able to give it (heck with it; we’re throwing the lowest grade possible at this mess) will almost unquestionably squander these great gifts. Because when your team owner is under federal investigation, and your organization has changed team presidents, general managers and head coaches at a dizzying rate, it’s hard to take anything you do seriously.

The fact that Sports Illustrated writers went off the scale to bring down the Browns may have Clevelanders discouraged, but the positioning of the rival Steelers may provide a silver lining for Browns fans.

30. Pittsburgh Steelers

Breakdown: FAs: 2 | Cap: 1.5 | Draft: 2 | GM: 2.5 | TOTAL: 8

It’s a known fact that the Steelers would have liked a better yield in their recent drafts. And general manager Kevin Colbert is a man very much in the firing line now as the Steelers try to re-fuel for a new generation of success with the need to pare down nearly $13 million in cap space just to get to zero. The formerly great defense slipped to the middle in 2013, and though protection improved for Ben Roethlisberger in the second half of the season, this was a team out of balance. And with more than a third of the roster lined up for free agency, it may be a while before this most stable of franchises is on top again. — DF

The only reason Pittsburgh comes in ahead of Cleveland on this list is the perception of the general manager’s office. In fact, if the Browns’ front office would have received the minimum grade outlined by the authors of 1, Cleveland shoots up the list to a tie for No. 16, ahead of five 2013 playoff teams.

Everyone in the Browns front office hated each other

Can’t you just feel the comfort oozing out of this picture?

On Tuesday morning when the Cleveland Browns disseminated the changes that were taking place in Berea, it appeared to be wrath wrought in the wake of impulsive decisions made by an impatient billionaire. Turns out that Browns majority owner Jimmy Haslam III, rather than choosing sides, decided that he had had enough of the drama unfolding behind closed doors.

Northeast Ohio Media Group’s Mary Kay Cabot reports that in addition to Haslam growing tired of the negative perception surrounding the other two Stooges, CEO in Joe Banner and general manager in Mike Lombardi, the two men he fired were not exactly seeing eye-to-eye.

Browns CEO Joe Banner and his top lieutenant Mike Lombardi ended on bad terms with each other, and their discord led to Jimmy Haslam firing both, league sources told Banner and Lombardi clashed over a number of things, but the disconnect came to a head during the tumultuous 25-day coaching search. [...]

Banner wanted to fire his embattled GM, and Lombardi knew it. If he didn’t know, he missed the writing on the wall. But what Banner didn’t know — and should have — was that Haslam had also grown weary of him during the search — portrayed as dysfunctional in the local and national media — and was gearing up to fire him. The owner and the CEO didn’t see eye-to-eye over a number of candidates, and Haslam came to feel that Banner was the reason some didn’t want to interview for — or accept — his coaching job.

Earlier this week, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported that Haslam’s discontent with Banner dated back 13 months when Chip Kelly, Haslam’s No. 1 target to take over for Pat Shurmur, opted to stay in Oregon. This decision, as has been reported, stemmed from a disagreement over Kelly’s control over his roster as well as his selections for assistant coaches. As it was, the assistant coaching non-starter also reportedly impacted the interview of Ken Whisenhunt as Joe Banner, ever the football man, felt that Wisenhunt’s selection for coordinators was not up to par.

In addition to notes on Josh McDaniels, Mike Pettine and others, sources also reportedly told Cabot that former Penn State coach Bill O’Brien, who was the top candidate of many vacancies this off-season, wasn’t interested in interviewing with the Browns this year because of the management team in place. At the end of it all, despite all of his proclamations to the contrary, the common denominator in all of these reports appears to be the bespectacled former CEO, the man who attempted to wield a bit too much power—giving his head coach in-season ultimatums, firing said head coach, attempting to oust his general manager—only to be left with a pink slip of his own, all while the “lazy media” “created” a “narrative” of dysfunction. The nerve.

Browns clean house again! – Scott Raab discusses – WFNY Podcast – 2014-02-12

WFNY Podcast LogoHonestly, Scott Raab has been trying to get away a bit from the Cleveland sports thing. I’ve left this platform completely open to him for whenever there’s something worth talking about, and a mere days after Chris Grant was fired and we fired up the podcast, Jimmy Haslam drops the hammer in Berea. So, we loaded it up again.

There’s no mystery about the things we talked about. The Browns, Joe Banner, Michael Lombardi, Jimmy Haslam, Ray Farmer, Alec Scheiner, Mike Pettine and more…

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While We’re Waiting… Mostly positive reactions to latest Berea upheaval

While We’re Waiting is a space on the WaitingForNextYear website where we share links every day. We’ve been doing it for about four years or so. Denny Mayo used to be much more amusing with his intros, if you recall. You know the drill: Email us with suggestions at

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Harsh words about Joe Banner and his departed regime from this former writer: “There’s a pattern here. The Browns have long had trouble figuring things out, and if it makes any sense, Haslam might be starting to figure that out. Now, if the Browns can just nail their two first-round picks, Haslam can be cleared of wrongdoing in the FBI investigation of his Pilot/Flying J companies and Farmer and Pettine can be on the same page in March, May, August and November, the Browns might just be able to eventually rejoin the ranks of the NFL living and competing again. Deep breath, Browns fans. With Farmer in charge, all of that (or at least some of that) has a better chance of happening.” [Zac Jackson/Fox Sports Ohio] [Read more...]

Get ready Browns fans: For better or worse, this is Jimmy Haslam’s team

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Ray Farmer was introduced on Tuesday afternoon as the new general manager of the Cleveland Browns. Out immediately is Michael Lombardi, with CEO Joe Banner phasing out in the coming months.

Owner Jimmy Haslam said that the decision was made to streamline the organization. Candidly, what Haslam did was remove the top two blocks from the organizational chart and have the football operation report directly to him as well as the business side.

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Mark Shapiro and Jimmy Haslam react to Michael Sam’s announcement

In the wake of Michael Sam’s announcement to the world that he is gay, the issue of gay individuals in sports has taken over the discussion landscape, even larger than it was when Jason Collins came out on the tail end of his NBA career back in May. As a result of the sheer size of the story, it’s found its way to Browns owner Jimmy Haslam and Indians President Mark Shapiro for comment, both of whom say that they would have no issue employing a player who was openly gay.

“Sexual orientation has not and never would be an area of consideration,” said Mark Shapiro. “And it certainly would not prevent us from acquiring a player we felt could help the team be in a better position to win a championship.”

And of course, in the NFL where teams are directly impacted by Sam’s decision to come out before the draft, owners have been going on record. Said Haslam, “Absolutely we would welcome Michael Sam to the Cleveland Browns organization if he can help us win games and he’s the right football player for this team. We are intent on creating an environment that is supportive, accepting and respectful of individual rights and differences.”

One consistency between both Haslam and Shapiro is first and foremost establishing if a player can contribute on the field. In the end, that’s supposed to be the only characteristic that should bias a professional sports franchise when it comes to player acquisition. Can they play at a level to help us achieve our goals? As these archaic barriers continue to fall, we move closer and closer to that truly being the only thing that matters.

Why Banner and Lombardi’s exits could be a good thing for the Browns


As I’ve stated time and again when it comes to the hiring decisions for coaches and front office members, we really must accept what we don’t know. We haven’t interviewed these people for jobs the way those making the hiring decisions have, so it’s reasonable to assume the value of our outsider opinions. That being said, today’s shakeup that has pushed Michael Lombardi and Joe Banner out in Berea leaves me feeling positive about the Browns for the first time in a long time.

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Talking Mike Pettine, Browns ticket prices and Davone Bess with Tom Reed – WFNY Podcast – 2014-02-04

WFNY Podcast LogoTom Reed from Northeast Ohio Media Group joined me to talk about the Browns. It’s always fun to talk to Tom. Here are some of the things we discussed.

Kyle Shanahan’s apparent hiring, Dan Quinn and whether the Browns should have waited, Browns ticket prices and where they’re going, Davone Bess and why the Browns haven’t done anything with him yet, and finally, we discussed Ray Farmer’s return to the Browns after turning down the possibility of a promtion in Miami.

Last, but not least, I forced Tom to recommend something, whether it’s a movie, album or TV show, and he chose a book.

Tom Reed recommends a history book on prohibition. Last Call: The Rise and Fall of Prohibition

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