The Sporting News asked 103 NFL players to share their opinion, and the answers given aren’t flattering of the Cleveland Browns or their fans.

The Browns got 20 votes, narrowly beating the Raiders (19) and the Jaguars (19) for the title of worst organization in the NFL.

Jacksonville WR Cecil Shorts added this comment with his vote:

“Cleveland Browns They don’t give anybody a chance. When I was growing up, they were getting rid of quarterbacks every two years. Coaches, too. You can’t do that. Most of the time when I was growing up, after the Browns came back in 1999, they were a sorry team. Under old management, they never gave those guys a chance. They let the fans dictate too much what was going on. I don’t know how it is now since I became a Jaguar (in 2011), but when I followed them, one bad game and they’d want to bench the quarterback. Cleveland is my city and my heart. It has the most loyal fans and a very rich history. I hope they can get back to winning.”

Shorts, obviously, is a native Clevelander.

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