While We’re Waiting… Peter King on Browns, Big Ten Review, and LeBron’s Nicknames
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“The ire of the fans is understandable. This is Year 11 of the Browns’ reincarnation, and it’s hard to say the team is very far ahead of where it was 10 years ago, when the expansion Browns finished 2-14. [...] By the way, Lerner’s not going to cave after a year and sweep clean. He’s tired of the coaching and front-office chaos, and I’m not saying he’s going to give Mankinis three seasons like this one, but to think he’ll fire the building again this winter is just not happening. This is what I’d say to Browns’ fans: It took you years to get into this mess, and it’s going to take you at least two years to get out of it.” [Peter King/SI.com]
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A midseason review of the Big Ten. Magic happens, baby. [EDSBS]
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Take a minute to imagine Ronnie Brown in the Browns backfield. A Wildcat formation with Brown, Lewis and Josh Cribbs. Hopefully, the Browns can land a big-time running back in the near future to help the team’s offense continue that ball-control style that was on display last Sunday. [No Logo Needed]
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After a little pressure, LeBron James chooses “King James” over “The Chosen One.” [Barry Koltnow/OC Register]
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A Q&A with Dan Gilbert regarding Issue 3. You may have heard of it. ['64 and Counting]
October 14th, 2009 at 9:21 am
“This is what I’d say to Browns’ fans: It took you years to get into this mess, and it’s going to take you at least two years to get out of it.”
Two years? Is that all? Thanks for that gem, Peter. Do us all a favor and drown in a pot of dark roast.
I still can’t believe this guy actually collects a paycheck writing this garbage. If it weren’t for Posnanski, I’d cancel SI.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:30 am
I like when Cleveland PD reporters take information from a blog, use it in their article, but fail to cite their source so they can get all the credit for it.
The guys on this site work really hard and then someone like Grossi can’t even have the decency to recognize them when he uses their information for his post. Punk
October 14th, 2009 at 9:39 am
“Patience”.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:43 am
I heard it took 2 years for half a ham sandwich to fall out of his 3rd chin….
October 14th, 2009 at 9:45 am
That’s right Johnny P., keep shooting the messenger. Good tact, gets your mind off reality eh?
October 14th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Yes Chris, god forbid you miss Posnanski’s takes on 2009 Cleveland from the perspective of a guy who obviously hasn’t made himself aware of any Cleveland-related developments since 1997. The Cavs Playoff article in SI last year was one of the laziest, worst-written pieces of garbage I’ve ever read. It’s as if being from Cleveland and sitting with a the CEO of a Cleveland company excused him from making any sort of legitimate journalistic effort. Posnanski sucks.
I do like your Peter King sentiments, however. Although without Peter King, we would have no idea what was going on with Colgate’s softball team.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Johnny P.-were you one of the manny rapping P. King for predicting a 2-14 season; instead suggesting six wins just be falling out of bed? Were you one of the many who rapped the Bengals as fodder in the North Division roundups?
October 14th, 2009 at 9:50 am
I think that King article was absolutely Tolkein-esque.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:51 am
@#7… Good lord you are annoying.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Patience, indeed. Much as – might not care for the man as a writer, King is right that this team is no quick fix, regardless of who’s at the helm. Much as we’d all like to see things instantly better (at least those of us without seemingly personal vendettas against the new staff), that’s just not realistic. For now, the hope is to see gradual overall improvement each week from both players and coaches.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Please, for the love of God, beat the Steelers.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Damn kids and their hip-hopping music, with the rapping.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Isis, why don’t you go to blogspot and start your own blog? Seriously. And this isn’t a dig at you. You have a lot to say. Do what others have done.
Go start a blog. Write on it every day. Submit your links for WWW and Scott will (probably) occasionally link to you.
I don’t even mean it to be sarcastic or snide. Your first feature can be the weekly roundup of the Browns game with the rookie report and on Mangini’s second half “adjustments.” I am sure you would have a million posts during draft time too.
I would read it.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Mankinis!
October 14th, 2009 at 9:58 am
@12: With their hippin’ and the hoppin’ and the bippin’ and the boppin’… so they don’t know what the JAZZ is all about!
October 14th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Oh Craiggers, don’t be such a [EDITED]
October 14th, 2009 at 10:01 am
So biff, you’re defending King as an astute, eloquent writer I’m assuming?
October 14th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Whoa! I’ve only made a few posts on here and I’ve never said anything about Peter King. It was a joke! He is a bag of hot air though. If he was worth his weight in corn dogs (that’s a ton of corn dogs by the way) he would never have picked the Browns to compete in the north a few years back. What he said in his article is nothing new to me.
October 14th, 2009 at 10:08 am
You know, I was just saying to myself the other day…I said, “Self, you know what the Interwebs is missing? Sports commentary from a pompous know-it-all who speaks in absolutes, belittles anyone who disagrees with their diatribes, and disappears whenever someone calls them out for being wr- wr- wr- less than correct. I would totally read that kind of thing.” But then isn’t that Jay Mariotti’s role in the virtual world? Oh well, nothing wrong with some competition.
October 14th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Hip? Hip-hop? Hip-hop-anonymous?
October 14th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Only 2 years to get out of this mess. I’m expecting 5, when yet another coach is hired.
October 14th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Isis, I have to agree with Craig -
You actually have a lot of good points, but no one wants to hear them when you only pull them out to snipe/troll/harass the other posters.
Start a blog, it would actually be nice to have a(n even more) pessimistic look around the Cleveland sports scene.
October 14th, 2009 at 10:19 am
If you’re really into it, Gilbert was on The Sound of Ideas on WCPN last week regarding Issue 3:
http://www.wcpn.org/index.php/WCPN/soi/28090/
October 14th, 2009 at 10:19 am
No, he’s a buffoon…like Posnanski
October 14th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Isis will never do it because then he would have to be on the record for something, and actually guess about what is to come
October 14th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Viva la blogs about hindsight!
October 14th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Funny how everyone always says “There’s no quick fix…” In football, there usually is a quick fix. With a QB and a wide receiver, the Browns could be 3-2 or 4-1. Two players.
What happened to the Jets after getting Rex Ryan? The Bengals, who had NOBODY last year, and all they’ve added is Carson Palmer? The 49ers, after a coach mooned them?
Okay, the Browns have NO chance of hiring the guy who can turn them around quickly. They’ll always get the guy who begiiiinssss a whooooole rebbbuuuuuuiiilding prooocesssss, and then they’ll fire him when they’re on the cusp and a key player gets injured. But it’s theoretically possible for there to be a quick fix, is what I’m saying.
October 14th, 2009 at 11:18 am
#4. Thanks for the chuckle.
October 14th, 2009 at 11:26 am
I’m not sure why people are hating on King’s article this time.
For once, it wasn’t a pile of crap. It isn’t anything new, but it’s exactly what most of us have been saying.
Generally, yeah, what PK writes is laughable. But this one actually seemed like a decently written and thought-out article.
October 14th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
@27,
I don’t know if the Jets are the best example for what you are trying to say. What I’d be curious to see is a comparison between the Browns and the 49ers.
The Niners fired their coach mid-season last year and looked dismal. I know they got smoked by Atlanta this week but Singletary looks to have turned them into a real football team.
October 14th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
yeah lerner was sooo sick of the front office chaos he went out and hired the first guy he saw on the street.
give me a break with the mangini decision he’s only forcing himself to fire another coach pretty soon.
October 14th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
WITHOUT ISIS THIS PLACE WOULD BLOW.
October 14th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
@19,
B-bo, besides Mariotti, and not on the interwebs, but they have exactly that on ESPn, his name is Cowherd, Colin. Pompous ass that speaks in absolutes and hangs up on anyone that disagrees with him, usually stating something to the like of: “Who has a nationally syndicated radio show? I do, so I’m right.” Maybe Isis could be an intern or something.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
they are all pinheads